Carlos Correa: Maybe This Isn't a Bad Thing

I also tend to avoid articles submitted by Sherry.  I should have avoided it too.  What a line of garbage it's filled with plus many inaccuracies.  About the only thing I agree with is being glad twins didn't sign Correa.  IMO this FO is or should be on a very short string.  They have done a couple of good things I will grant you.  But I believe they have almost ruined this franchise. The team is boring, has no identity, plays very poor baseball.  Signing Joey Gallo, yes he of the 199 career average type to a one year contract of 11 million is ludicrous.  

20 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

They also lost Urshela, who had a great WPA and decent WAR.......and replaced him with no one so far. 

Actually, they did replace him already. Inhouse with Miranda... who clearly has a higher ceiling and needed to open the spot. I like Urshela a lot but that needed to happen. 

12 hours ago, Sherry Cerny said:

HI!!! I love the long rant, do NOT stress it at all. So, you have to bare in mind, that I *think* comparatively, as a small market team, they did do their best. That being said. I could NOT agree more than I do with this statement you made, "My problem is that they wasted a whole lot of time going after someone they should have know they couldn't get for their lowball offer while not improving the team in any drastic way. " 

SO on point. that is exactly how I feel. I would have preferred giving him 10 years 300-325mm, and I don't know why they didn't? didn't want to pay the luxury tax, what have you - but I full agree that now that is missed time and effort and if I was Swanson, I would not want to come here to be left overs. 

Need to "read" the numbers! The offer was for more annually than SF .. Their offer was fantastic. That he took the SF offer was disappointing but understandable. Those 10-13 year contracts NEVER pan out... I would be pissed if we DID sign him for that .. Stupid and irresponsible use of resources. 

4 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Miranda was already on the team. Playing at the same time as Urshela. 

Correct but Miranda was playing out of position... and allows Kiriloff to move to his best position. A connect the dots thing... 

On 12/16/2022 at 1:29 PM, Deadfan said:

The twins did in fact short change correa if we look at it through the lens of what contracts are now going for in MLB. This offer probably wouldnt have gotten Carlos last year or the year before and it sure wasnt going to cut the mustard this year. 

Inflation is real folks 

 

that's not inflation that's insanity.  Russo is 100% correct.  The giants deal / no deal was beyond stupid.

On 12/16/2022 at 12:12 PM, bloomwcjkl said:

If Correa was 22, maybe we missed. At 29, I think it was a lucky miss.

Baseball = summer. I just like having it on. (TV, radio, app).

I'll follow along whether we win or lose. Pirahna's with an under $100 million payroll is fine with me.

Yep.  That's what made me so nervous about what the Twins offered, which would have been a HUGE deal for them.  Considering Correa will be in his early 40's at the conclusion of that contract and has a history of back problems (which i can attest too, never go away), it was a very risky deal for this franchise in my opinion.  Would have it been great to have him? Sure, but at what price long term?  

On 12/17/2022 at 9:37 AM, Whitey333 said:

I also tend to avoid articles submitted by Sherry.  I should have avoided it too.  What a line of garbage it's filled with plus many inaccuracies.  About the only thing I agree with is being glad twins didn't sign Correa.  IMO this FO is or should be on a very short string.  They have done a couple of good things I will grant you.  But I believe they have almost ruined this franchise. The team is boring, has no identity, plays very poor baseball.  Signing Joey Gallo, yes he of the 199 career average type to a one year contract of 11 million is ludicrous.  

I agree.  I'm kinda glad the Twins didn't sign Correa either.  I just have a gut feeling that deal is gonna end up being a bad BAD contract, even for the money rich Mets.  That said, I think the Front office got schooled and it appears they threw all their effort into the Correa deal.  The Gallo and Farmer signings do next to nothing to moving this team to competitiveness.   

And to all those giving Sherry a hard time about Carlos Rodon.  Carlos was signed that day and the other sports websites started reporting it between 7-9pm, while her article was posted around noon.  I think she deserves a pass.

On 12/16/2022 at 12:52 PM, LA VIkes Fan said:

I'm unhappy that we didn't ay the freight to get Correa and happy that we didn't really compete for Rodon (too injury prone). But please, let's stop complaining about Urshela. Nice guy, decent player, but a classic starter on a second division team who is a UTL/trade bait on a good team kind of guy. His defense is good as long as the ball is hit to him or a step or two either way. No range. That's why the Yankees moved him off SS, and then realized that his bat isn't good enough bat to augment his glove at an offense first position once MLB got rid of the juiced ball. He's not on the Yankees any more because he wasn't good enough for a team that expected to contend. Perfect for the Angels who won't really contend but don't want to rebuild. He'll help them get as high as 80-82 wins this year. Whopee! And let's not forget he's a FA in 2024. 

We traded Urshela to create room for a player that has a much higher offensive ceiling at 3B, while leaving 1B open for the reigning AL batting champ and/or Kirilloff who also has a much higher ceiling. Yes, both young players have a lower floor. Will this work? I say more likely yes than no but none of us know. These are the kind of moves the Twins have to make and risks they have to take to have a chance to get better. A team of Urshelas might win 80-85 games but it won't compete for anything else. This might work, it might not, but at least it's an attempt to get better. 

I was a supporter of the Urshela / Donaldson trade when it was being criticized.  That said, I see it the same way.  However, I would add the possibility Kirilloff is back.  Then there is nowhere to play Miranda for certain.