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    40-Man Roster Decisions: The Pitchers


    Seth Stohs

    On Monday the Minnesota Twins announced that five players had been outrighted to AAA Rochester. Tommy Milone has already said he has become a free agent. Andrew Albers and Pat Dean can also become free agents following the completion of the World Series as minor league free agents. The Twins could re-sign them, if they choose to do so.

    There are a lot decisions the Twins front office needs to make. Many of those decisions will likely wait until after the World Series because that is when Derek Falvey officially takes over as the Twins Chief of Baseball Operations.

    There are a lot of decisions to be made. Who will take over as the general manager, or could Falvey keep Rob Antony on the job on an interim basis for the time being, or maybe even for the 2017 season? What about other front office personnel? We’re told that the coaching staff is in limbo as we await the arrival of Falvey.

    But for today, I want to focus on players and the 40-man roster. And after reading today’s article, we are going to want your thoughts and opinions on who should be added.

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    Even with Tommy Milone being outrighted and electing free agency, the Twins have six arbitration-eligible players, including four pitchers. There are other articles on this topic for debate and there will be more in the Twins Daily Offseason Handbook. (Coming soon!).

    Just one player currently on the 40-man roster will automatically become a free agent after the World Series. That player is catcher Kurt Suzuki.

    There are three players who are currently on the 60-day disabled list: Phil Hughes, Glen Perkins and Danny Santana. These players will need to be added back to the 40-man roster before the Rule 5 draft. So the Twins officially have 35 players on their 40-man roster, but with those three added back, there really are 38 spots accounted for.

    So I want to look at the current 38 players on the 40-man roster. How many of them are "givens" to remain on the roster? Any of the arbitration-eligibles? Who are the guys on the proverbial roster bubble? For this, we are going to assume no trades for now. It is, of course, possible that the Twins make a trade or two before the Winter Meetings which may affect this as well.

    THE GIVENS

    1. Jose Berrios - Despite his struggles, he is a given to remain on the roster. He is a very important fixture in the Twins future.
    2. JT Chargois - He struggled early in his MLB career. However, he figured things out in September and the hope is that he will be a reliable man at the back-end of the Twins bullpen.
    3. Tyler Duffey - Again, tough season for the right-hander after he ended 2015 as the Twins best starter. Long-term, can he be a starter, or should he be in the bullpen? That will play itself out, but it’s clear he’s got enough stuff - in the two pitches he has - to at least be a solid reliever.
    4. Phil Hughes - He’s got the contract. He’s coming off an injury. He is going to remain on the roster.
    5. Pat Light - The numbers in the big leagues have been really non-good. Despite Trackman verifying that he was hitting 100 in Rochester, we didn’t see that in the big leagues. He was hit hard and struggled with secondary pitches. There’s a reason he was available in a trade for Fernando Abad. But there’s still upside here.
    6. Trevor May - Starter or bullpen? To be determined, but he’s a given to remain on the roster. Has really good stuff. Can be a dominant reliever, or a mid-rotation starter. We’ll see which.
    7. Adalberto Mejia - Acquired in July for Eduardo Nunez, Mejia was in Baseball America’s Top 100 prospects at mid-season. The left-hander made one appearance with the Twins in August before being shut down. He has a chance to be a solid mid-rotation starter.
    8. Mason Melotakis - He is essentially one year behind JT Chargois in terms of recovery and return from Tommy John surgery. He got through his first year back, and should be used and developed in 2017 similarly to Chargois was in 2016. Too talented.
    9. Glen Perkins - He’s untradeable due to recovery from shoulder injury. He has a contract. If healthy, he can be a terrific reliever in the late innings for the Twins, even if he’s 90% of what he was during his three straight All-Star seasons.
    10. Taylor Rogers - He was an easy choice to add to the 40-man roster last year at the time, and he proved the Twins correct by having a very nice rookie season in 2016. It was his first work out of the bullpen, so there’s a good chance he could continue to improve in the role going forward.
    11. Ervin Santana - He was the Twins pitcher of the year in 2016, and it was an easy choice. Could he be traded this offseason? Sure.

    There are eleven pitchers who are "givens" to be on the Twins 40-man roster. In addition, of the arbitration-eligible pitchers, it is my opinion that Kyle Gibson, Ryan Pressly and Brandon Kintzler are givens to be offered arbitration. I’d probably put Hector Santiago as more of a 50/50 selection.

    Here are the pitchers remaining on the 40-man roster who remain question marks for the roster at this point. Remember, room still needs to be made on the roster for players who need to be added to the 40-man roster or potentially lost to the Rule 5 draft. Of the below names, the front office will need to determine if they prefer to keep the current guy or go with a potential Rule 5 selection. There are a lot of difficult decisions.

    ON THE BUBBLE

    1. Buddy Boshers - A nice story in 2016, he pitched well in AAA and - with the exception of just a couple of appearances - in the big leagues. Left-handed. His improved breaking pitches have to be evaluated to determine if he’s worth a roster spot.
    2. Ryan O’Rourke - See Boshers, Buddy. O’Rourke made a concerted effort to improve his numbers against right-handed hitters to make himself more valuable on a roster. However, he was removed from the 40-man roster early in the season, but he did well in AAA and earned his way back on the roster.
    3. Randy Rosario - Another left-hander. He has a chance to start, which is what he did the first three-plus months of the season in Ft. Myers. He moved to the bullpen, and that’s where he is pitching in the Arizona Fall League. 2016 was his first full season back from Tommy John. He’s got terrific stuff and potential, but lack of strikeouts make him a question mark.
    4. Yorman Landa - In the Florida State League All-Star game, he threw several pitches over 100 mph, and that’s what he can do. However, he didn’t pitch after mid-July because of a shoulder injury, an injury he has missed significant time with before.
    5. Michael Tonkin - Simply put, his AAA dominance has not translated to the big leagues in his four years of opportunities. There are certainly times that he showed his upside, but for the most part he really struggled.
    6. Alex Wimmers - Former first-round pick who earned an opportunity to pitch in the big leagues the final six weeks of the season. Aside from two consecutive appearances in which he walked a combined six batters, he was very good. But what will the new regime think?

    POTENTIAL 40-MAN ROSTER ADDS

    Real quickly, here is an incomplete list of pitchers who would need to be added to the Twins 40-man roster or risk being lost in the Rule 5 draft (with my thoughts on likelihood of them being added):

    • Fernando Romero - GIVEN
    • Felix Jorge - HIGHLY LIKELY
    • DJ Baxendale - BUBBLE
    • Lewis Thorpe - BUBBLE
    • Jason Wheeler - BUBBLE
    • Zack Jones - BUBBLE
    • Ryan Eades - UNLIKELY
    • Williams Ramirez - UNLIKELY

    So there you have it, a crib sheet review of the pitchers on the Minnesota Twins current 40 (or 38?)-man roster. As I see it, there are 11 easy choices to keep on the roster. There are four pitchers who are arbitration-eligible. In my opinion, three of them are givens. There are six pitchers that I believe are on the 40-man roster bubble. And there are several pitchers who need to be considered for addition to the 40-man roster.

    Tomorrow, I'll do the same thing with the 16 hitters currently on the Twins 40-man roster. For now, discuss your thoughts on the above as well as what you would do. Or, if you prefer, if you were asked to provide Derek Falvey with your roster recommendations, what would you present?

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    It's important to remember that we are not going to be a contender next year. There's really no reason to let a guy like Lewis Thorpe go, so you can keep a mediocre reliever. I'd like to see another year from him to see what he has.

    I could probably put Landa, Rosario, and maybe Wimmers in that boat as well. The main concern should be keeping guys who could really help this team in 2 to 3 years.

     

     

     

    I don't see why he doesn't get released.

    There is no baseball reason to keep him.  As far as baseball considerations go, he should be DFA'd.  However that way the Twins will be responsible for $7.2 M ($6.5 for 2017 & $0.7 buyout of 2018 option.)  If they keep him on the 40-man and move him to the 60-day DL next season, insurance will pay part.  Plus it is the perceived PR potential issue that fans would like to have a Minnesotan in the team despite his horrible play and that the Twins should be Minnesota nice to Minnesotan players regardless their capabilities,

     

    Hope the new regime puts an end to this nonsense...

    I believe Hughes could elect free agency given his major league service time. 

    I don't think that quite conforms to how guaranteed contracts work, and he'd be a fool to take free agency.

     

    Basically, you have to carry a guaranteed contract on your 40-man. Barring a trade, you can get rid of the contract in a couple of ways - DFA him and if some other team takes him then your problem is solved, otherwise back onto the 40-man he goes - or, you simply cut him and eat the salary, if the roster spot is that important to you. In the latter case, a team that then signs him is on the hook only for a (pro-rated, if mid-season) major league minimum salary, and the cutting team continues to pay the rest.

     

    There would be no reason for the player to void the guaranteed contract and elect free agency unless he felt he could get more money, which clearly would not be the case for Hughes, or I suppose if he felt so strongly about what team he wanted to play for that he would sacrifice the money.

     

    Bottom line for the Twins, though, is that no roster shenanigans are going to save them from having to commit a 40-man spot to him.

    No one is claiming Landa and keeping him on their roster for the full year, are they? wouldn't they have to?

     

    Since he already on the 40 man roster,he would have to go through waiver and a team could just claim him a put him on their 40 man. Since he still has options they wouldn't have to keep him at the major league.

     

     

    Actually (to my surprise) Boshers has been pretty good against lefties.

     

    With Rodgers and O'Rourke, that makes three good lefty specialists, though I don't know if you can realistically carry three such guys for long stretches. I would rank Rodgers the best of the group (if having the worst numbers). O'Rourke seems like he potentially has a wipe out slider like Miller's but it's too bad his fastball isn't a tich higher than 90. I can see protecting all those three. 

     

    Since he already on the 40 man roster,he would have to go through waiver and a team could just claim him a put him on their 40 man. Since he still has options they wouldn't have to keep him at the major league.

     

    Ah, thanks. Still don't care all that much, but now I care a tiny bit...

    Well, naturally this whole 40 man thing is premature as there could be a trade or two to come. But simply working with what we have now....

     

    I'd probably keep Light. I haven't seen him pitch yet, and only the Twins, at this point, really know if they have something there or not. But they thought enough of him to trade for him.

     

    I think you're forced to keep one of Boshers or O'Rourke, pending any trades or signings, but I don't think you have room for both. I'd lean toward Boshers, would really like to remove both and sign them to milb deals if I could.

     

    I wouldn't keep Thorpe. I just don't see how he's a risk to be selected and kept by someone. Still not sure Tonkin has been used correctly, and not sure if we've seen enough of Wimmers to make an accurate decision. I'm all about keeping as many talented young arms as we can, and opening roster spots for them. It's the bubble guys that make this so difficult. You need guys for 2017 who can pitch for you...not just necessarily promote a bunch of rookies...and a couple of these guys could still really help/develop. But you just can't keep them all. Somehow, the Twins have to decide which couple they still see real room for improvement, keep a couple, let go the rest and maybe sign them to deals with an invite. Just no other way to juggle/handle 40 spots and hold on to the risers.

    The Twins have a number of pitchers who could just walk away if not kept on the 40-man - Wimmers, Boshers, Light. With their performances last year, and the number of same/significant arms in the system, almost want to say so long. The only tough choice is Wheeler. Should you or not. Baxendale MIGHT be grabbed, but I would take the chance that he won't be. 

     

    The truth is that the pitching staff is a shambles and can be rcreated with same bodies out of the 2th or 41st men that msot teams will elt walk in the off-season with hopes that SOMEONE from the minors will fill 2-3-4 of the holes sometime in 2017.

     

    There is zilch trade value from all bodies except for Santana. Even Kintzler. there seemed to be no biters during the regular season.

     

    Sad that you have to think about protecting these guys.

     

    I would keep Thorpe. The last time he and Romero were both healthy at the same time, Thorpe was rated higher. And he is a year younger than Romero. I think Thorpe would definitely be taken in the rule V draft.

    I don't see how anyone can carry Thorpe for a full season. The guy hasn't pitched in 2 years, and never above A ball.

     

    Then again, if we leave him unprotected and he gets picked, I'm going to be pretty bitter.

    So, I don't envy that decision.

    There is not enough upside for a team to grab a Thorpe, unless they think they can carry him for the season (they can't). Wait to see what happens to him and remember, because of high draft picks,the Twins may still have difficult roster decisions for 40-man adds for a couple more years!

     

    There is not enough upside for a team to grab a Thorpe, unless they think they can carry him for the season (they can't). Wait to see what happens to him and remember, because of high draft picks,the Twins may still have difficult roster decisions for 40-man adds for a couple more years!

    Thorpe is a lottery ticket, same as Johan Santana,  would you like to be on the wrong side of that risk reward.




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