Game Thread: Tigers (Mize) v Twins (Varland); 4/21 @ 1:10pm CT

[USAFChief]

Paddack vs the White Sox tomorrow. The classic "resistable force meets movable object" clash.

[Aggies7]

When will people start having to answer for this crud? Ownership down to the lowest scout. Organizational enema is needed I think 

[Aggies7]

It was youuu Faedo!

[RpR]

3 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

This team loves to score runs when they don't matter....

Don't complain , you would rather another K?

[USAFChief]

Lah-who. Zah-her.

 

as expected.

[jkcarew]

Gotta think Jeffers has made a serious, professional effort to change his 2-strike approach. His K’s are down significantly, and he’s still managing to drive the ball. A bright spot…I’d love to see him be able to sustain it.

[IndyTwinsFan]

4 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

When will people start having to answer for this crud? Ownership down to the lowest scout. Organizational enema is needed I think 

If we’re not already there, I think we're rapidly approaching total system meltdown time.  Might be nearing time to start cleaning house, from management through to the players, because this has gotten way beyond ridiculous. 

[jaimedude]

2 for 22 this series with runners in scoring positions. Twins are more than sluggish or constipated, they have become irregular. Not sure there is any fiber in the entire system to unclog the at-bat's. Twins bat's look slow and geriatric. Time for fines and suspensions. I was right about Louie Vaarlamd not being a starter, could see the cracks last year. 

[twins_89]

Twins now 8 back after the first 20 games. How deep does the hole need to get before there is no way out.

[IndyTwinsFan]

Just now, twins_89 said:

Twins now 8 back after the first 20 games. How deep does the hole need to get before there is no way out.

With this team, we may already be there, sad to say. 

[Tlaker]

If nothing else….. fire the damn hitting coaches! At least show some kind of response to this offensive debacle!

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

2 minutes ago, IndyTwinsFan said:

With this team, we may already be there, sad to say. 

Yeah, I'm not seeing it with this group. No fire or fight. 

[IndyTwinsFan]

1 minute ago, Tlaker said:

If nothing else….. fire the damn hitting coaches! At least show some kind of response to this offensive debacle!

... and/or overhaul the team's overall hitting approach because it's becoming increasingly clear that the current approach isn't working. 

[CRF]

21 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Jeebus Theilbar is awful.

Caleb Thielbar is just as bad. 🤪

[IndyTwinsFan]

Just now, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Yeah, I'm not seeing it with this group. No fire or fight. 

Couldn't agree more!

[Irishman]

The Twins players should play better.   Not so much fun watching Twins anymore.   Very disappointing!

[Parfigliano]

14 minutes ago, OvertheHill said:

Well that’s a bright spot!

Not if the organization is trying to change him from OBP....line drive contact hitter into pull--pull hitter

[Irishman]

2 minutes ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Yeah, I'm not seeing it with this group. No fire or fight. 

Agreed.   I’m not gonna come watch them!  

[Joffell]

I looked at the roster at the beginning of the year and told my co-worker (Braves fan) 

“it’s gonna be a long year for the Twins this year”

I saw a bad offense on paper, and losing 2 major league starting pitchers with nothing to back them up

 

[Parfigliano]

11 minutes ago, jkcarew said:

Gotta think Jeffers has made a serious, professional effort to change his 2-strike approach. His K’s are down significantly, and he’s still managing to drive the ball. A bright spot…I’d love to see him be able to sustain it.

Player--Coach.  Pay him.

[OvertheHill]

4 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

Not if the organization is trying to change him from OBP....line drive contact hitter into pull--pull hitter

Yeah I hope not. 

[OvertheHill]

13 minutes ago, twins_89 said:

Twins now 8 back after the first 20 games. How deep does the hole need to get before there is no way out.

Even when we get Correa and Lewis back, we’re still doomed with this roster construction and endless tinkering by the Manager, so realistically you’re looking at a 3rd place AL Central team IMO. 

[IndyTwinsFan]

18 minutes ago, OvertheHill said:

Even when we get Correa and Lewis back, we’re still doomed with this roster construction and endless tinkering by the Manager, so realistically you’re looking at a 3rd place AL Central team IMO. 

And one could make a case where that is an overly optimistic viewpoint. 

[Hubie29]

28 minutes ago, OvertheHill said:

Even when we get Correa and Lewis back, we’re still doomed with this roster construction and endless tinkering by the Manager, so realistically you’re looking at a 3rd place AL Central team IMO. 

I'm sure Falvine has the owner convinced this is just a string of bad luck occurrences. They had everything in place to start the season.  They traded for their fifth starter, cuz we already had 4 dependable ones, (insert laugh), picked up a few depth players, and constructed the best bullpen in the majors!  I'm with Joffell, I saw trouble before the season started. You aren't going to improve by the means of subtraction. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, davidborton said:

1 May, earliest I even check on the lawn.
15 May, earliest Target Field gates finds my butt in the seat.

May 1 !! What, do live above the Artic Circle? 😀

[Jocko87]

1 hour ago, RpR said:

Nothing to do with options, it is how one can be that low with so few Ks.

Piranhas?

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, twins_89 said:

Twins now 8 back after the first 20 games. How deep does the hole need to get before there is no way out.

The Twins are just freeing up all of else to do the things that are really important in life and not be distracted by their insignificance.

[Tlaker]

1 hour ago, OvertheHill said:

Even when we get Correa and Lewis back, we’re still doomed with this roster construction and endless tinkering by the Manager, so realistically you’re looking at a 3rd place AL Central team IMO. 

This “endless tinkering” is exhibit A that Rocco is in over his head and has no conviction of his beliefs nor the ability to manage at this level!

[knothole61]

8 hours ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Is Cleveland ever going to lose?

Well, they have played the White Sox, Oakland, and the Twins for about 45 of their total schedule to date, although I must admit that they have been nearly invincible for over a week now! They say it's marathon not a sprint...I guess that's about all I have to cling to. 

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

6 hours ago, knothole61 said:

Well, they have played the White Sox, Oakland, and the Twins for about 45 of their total schedule to date, although I must admit that they have been nearly invincible for over a week now! They say it's marathon not a sprint...I guess that's about all I have to cling to. 

That's true. IIRC, they have 10 wins against those three teams and the Twins had every opportunity to take the two games at Target Field. On paper, the Guardians aren't anything special but it might just be one of those fluke seasons where everything goes right for them.