What the Twins See in Josh Staumont, and How He Fits Their Bullpen Philosophy

[chpettit19]

16 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

Why would the MLB teams want to give up a summer of development time? Where would the potential draft picks (some who have graduated) play from July to October? Forget ever having a high school player drafted again, they would have already played fall ball in the NCAA. Same for JUCO players. That idea is lose-lose.

I am in favor of a forced dead period for transactions between the end of the winter meetings in mid-December and New Year's Day. Let everyone take 2 weeks off and start again in the new year.

I'm suggesting guys get drafted earlier, not later. They'd play in the minors from April to October if they wanted. Why wouldn't you want to get the guys in earlier for development if you could? You could easily make a rule that gives you high school (or college/JUCO) player's "rights" when you draft them, but not sign them until after their high school season if that's how you want that to go. NHL kids get drafted and play for other leagues all the time. Skenes, Crews, Clark, Langford, and Jenkins could've already been "controlled" by the Pirates, Nats, Tigers, Rangers, and Twins when the season started last year. They all could've then made decisions on signing or playing their college/high school seasons. Bryce Harper wouldn't have had to go to JUCO for a year for show. It'd take some tweaks to the signing system, but it's certainly doable. It could be as simple as keeping the same signing date (end of July/early August) but moving up the draft. 

The bigger hurdle is just how early you have to make decisions on these guys. It'd throw off the variability of the draft even more, but it's certainly doable. Jackson Holliday likely wouldn't have gone #1 in 2022, but he'd have been drafted in the first round still. 

Note: we're getting pretty far off topic here so we should move this conversation elsewhere. I'll start an "MLB Offseason" thread.

[nicksaviking]

Since he has an option, I'm not concerned with this move at all. And I'm not concerned with the 40-man since there are still several players on it that I have little issue moving on from.

This guy's utter lack of control is what puzzles me. This team has really seemed to focus on limiting walks the last couple of years and Stautman looks like a poor fit. He's basically getting paid the league minimum though, I wouldn't be surprised if his innings pitched at the MLB level this year is under 15. This kind of feels like a glorified MiLB deal with a spring training invite. Basically no different than claiming Oliver Ortega off waivers last winter.

[Matthew Trueblood]

14 hours ago, tarheeltwinsfan said:

I wonder what Zack Bove told the Royals FO before Staumont was DFA'ed? I wonder if the Twins FO  checked with Bove, or  would that have been unethical to even inquire Bove's opinion. If I were Bove, I would not feel comfortable discussing Staumont with the Twins FO. That is not Bove's job now.  His loyalty is to the Royals.

Bove is KC's assistant pitching coach. He's part of a new structure there and his work with Staumont is notable, but they probably didn't meaningfully consult him on the choice to non-tender him at all. And yeah, the Twins wouldn't reach out to Bove to check in on him, except perhaps for any makeup stuff he felt like sharing. It's ok to talk about personality fit across organizations with people you know and trust, but by and large, teams neither trust what they hear from employees of other teams about on-field performance nor feel comfortable putting them in that kind of position.

[DJL44]

3 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

Note: we're getting pretty far off topic here so we should move this conversation elsewhere. I'll start an "MLB Offseason" thread.

I agree. I don't see a reason to make the MLB draft more risky to fill a perceived need for news in the offseason.

[stringer bell]

3 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Since he has an option, I'm not concerned with this move at all. And I'm not concerned with the 40-man since there are still several players on it that I have little issue moving on from.

There are still three spots on the major league roster and the Twins thus far haven't signed many major league players to minor league contracts, so there is plenty of room for Staumont to get a major league contract. As noted, having the ability to option him seals the deal.