Aaron Hicks 3rd best prospect in the system?

[drivlikejehu]

 

 

As in Felix Jorge? There are better pitching prospects in Dominican than him right now like Miguel Gonzalez, Javier Vargas and Damian Defrank who actually have pitched in games

 

Felix Jorge has thrown 25 2/3 innings in the GCL with a 1.40 ERA. He's a top 20 Twins prospect for sure, though not #11.

 

I don't get why so many people think Herrmann is a good prospect. He's really not a prospect at all... he's most likely a AAAA player, with back-up catcher upside. Back-up catchers are not a rare commodity. Maybe he could be ranked somewhere but not top 30.

[Seth Stohs]

I don't get why so many people think Herrmann is a good prospect. He's really not a prospect at all... he's most likely a AAAA player, with back-up catcher upside. Back-up catchers are not a rare commodity. Maybe he could be ranked somewhere but not top 30.

 

Because of Joe Mauer and Ryan Doumit, it's likely that Herrmann will be a backup catcher for the Twins. But I don't at all see that as his ceiling. I think he can play for the Twins in that same Doumit role, where he is the #2/#3 catcher, but he is also a very good defensive outfielder. He's a catcher prospect who gives versatility, can hit .270ish, get on base a lot, hit 10-12 homers, hit doubles, and even steal a dozen bases.

 

There's a lot of value in that.

[drivlikejehu]

I don't get why so many people think Herrmann is a good prospect. He's really not a prospect at all... he's most likely a AAAA player, with back-up catcher upside. Back-up catchers are not a rare commodity. Maybe he could be ranked somewhere but not top 30.

 

Because of Joe Mauer and Ryan Doumit, it's likely that Herrmann will be a backup catcher for the Twins. But I don't at all see that as his ceiling. I think he can play for the Twins in that same Doumit role, where he is the #2/#3 catcher, but he is also a very good defensive outfielder. He's a catcher prospect who gives versatility, can hit .270ish, get on base a lot, hit 10-12 homers, hit doubles, and even steal a dozen bases.

 

There's a lot of value in that.

 

He's barely doing what you describe as a 24 year-old in AA (over 200 games at that level)- how can he be expected to do that as a Major Leaguer? He is nowhere near the same caliber of hitter as Doumit... when he was the same age, Doumit hit .345/.415/.630 in AAA and then held his own with the Pirates. A .743 OPS at age 24 in AA just isn't any good at all.

 

And Doumit himself was cheap to acquire and re-sign, so a homeless man's version of Doumit just isn't worth much.

[jokin]

I don't get why so many people think Herrmann is a good prospect. He's really not a prospect at all... he's most likely a AAAA player, with back-up catcher upside. Back-up catchers are not a rare commodity. Maybe he could be ranked somewhere but not top 30.

 

Because of Joe Mauer and Ryan Doumit, it's likely that Herrmann will be a backup catcher for the Twins. But I don't at all see that as his ceiling. I think he can play for the Twins in that same Doumit role, where he is the #2/#3 catcher, but he is also a very good defensive outfielder. He's a catcher prospect who gives versatility, can hit .270ish, get on base a lot, hit 10-12 homers, hit doubles, and even steal a dozen bases.

 

There's a lot of value in that.

 

He's barely doing what you describe as a 24 year-old in AA (over 200 games at that level)- how can he be expected to do that as a Major Leaguer? He is nowhere near the same caliber of hitter as Doumit... when he was the same age, Doumit hit .345/.415/.630 in AAA and then held his own with the Pirates. A .743 OPS at age 24 in AA just isn't any good at all.

 

And Doumit himself was cheap to acquire and re-sign, so a homeless man's version of Doumit just isn't worth much.

 

I think you missed the part about Hermann being a very good defensive catcher.

[Badsmerf]

As in Felix Jorge? There are better pitching prospects in Dominican than him right now like Miguel Gonzalez, Javier Vargas and Damian Defrank who actually have pitched in games

 

Felix Jorge likely won't be in my Top 50, but he is a very good prospect. Very young, throws hard, developing secondary stuff. Jorge has a chance to move up, but could take him another two seasons just to get to Beloit. Very young. Very talented. Good, live arm.

 

I gave him a high spot based on his projectability. He has some work to do, but he's still just 18. I like his delivery, I like his arm, I just like him as a prospect right now. He will need to have better command and develop his other pitches as he moves up. He might be a little high, but that's why its my list lol.

[old nurse]

Unless Gibson is ready opening day there is not much help in the minor leagues for a talent upgrade for the start of 2013. Arcia could make it real hard for them to send him down with a good spring training. No middle infield help for a long time.

[kab21]

I'm not seeing it for Herrmann tbh. He is on a tear in August though.

 

I don't really understand how it's possible that Felix Jorge isn't a top 50 prospect. Imo he's at the tail end of the interesting but young group in the 10-20 range. He's thrown about the same number of pro innings as Berrios and the Berrios bandwagon is going nuts.

[Badsmerf]

I'm not seeing it for Herrmann tbh. He is on a tear in August though.

 

I don't really understand how it's possible that Felix Jorge isn't a top 50 prospect. Imo he's at the tail end of the interesting but young group in the 10-20 range. He's thrown about the same number of pro innings as Berrios and the Berrios bandwagon is going nuts.

The only reason I would rank Herrmann around the top 10 is because he is a catcher that can hit a little bit and play in the OF. I see a guy like him having a good chance to contribute.

[DaveW]

Agree with Kab, there is no reason why Jorge shouldn't crack the top 20.

[kab21]

 

The only reason I would rank Herrmann around the top 10 is because he is a catcher that can hit a little bit and play in the OF. I see a guy like him having a good chance to contribute.

Herrmann is a 24 yr old repeating AA with a .737 career OPS. If he's not catching then he's barely even a prospect.