Article: Duffey Is Ahead Of The Curve

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Why would Milone have a high price tag but no trade value? If he has produced, he has value. If he hasn't he doesn't. The fact that he is cost-controlled should add to his trade value.

First of all, the poster said "he doesn't have much trade value", not "no trade value."

 

It's the arbitration system.  Any starter with his service time is going to cost ~$4 mil in arb, but Milone doesn't have the upside to suggest a lot of potential excess value at that price.  Remember, Milone was traded straight up for Sam Fuld not long ago when he still making the minimum and hadn't yet experienced the injuries of his Twins career.

 

 

The Twins could probably do better than Fuld in trade return for Milone now, but still satisfy the statement "he doesn't have much trade value."

 

[Otto von Ballpark]

Also, credit to the Twins for developing Duffey so far and moving him up the AAA depth chart when they did, but remember they didn't even promote him until first Milone got injured for a spot start, and then later after Hughes got injured.  Some evidence suggests that moving May back to the rotation may have been their preferred plan when Hughes got hurt too, until Duffey shined in his second spot start.

 

Ultimately, unlike with Berrios they didn't leave much excess value in AAA with Duffey, but we're kinda lucky Milone and Hughes got hurt when they did, or we may not have seen Duffey until it was too late (or wouldn't have seen him in a significant role).

[howieramone2]

 

Also, credit to the Twins for developing Duffey so far and moving him up the AAA depth chart when they did, but remember they didn't even promote him until first Milone got injured for a spot start, and then later after Hughes got injured.  Some evidence suggests that moving May back to the rotation may have been their preferred plan when Hughes got hurt too, until Duffey shined in his second spot start.

 

Ultimately, unlike with Berrios they didn't leave much excess value in AAA with Duffey, but we're kinda lucky Milone and Hughes got hurt when they did, or we may not have seen Duffey until it was too late (or wouldn't have seen him in a significant role).

As Terry Ryan would say, these things have a way of working themselves out.

[TheLeviathan]

 

As Terry Ryan would say, these things have a way of working themselves out.

 

I'd feel a lot better if we worked them out ourself and not waited around for it.  Seems like a more sustainable way to get things right.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

As Terry Ryan would say, these things have a way of working themselves out.

That's an argument to hold on to depth, not to do nothing (especially not to hold back potential plus players from a pennant race).

 

In fact, the Twins did something with Tyler Duffey, limiting his pitches/innings in both of his August AAA starts, and giving him two MLB spot starts when they presented themselves (forcing the first on 3 days rest for Duffey).  While it took an injury to get him up here, the Twins put him in that position and I give them some credit for that.

 

The Twins had basically the exact same opportunity to do it with Berrios too, but chose not to.  They did not limit his pitches/innings in any of his August AAA starts, and passed on an obvious opportunity to give him a MLB spot start audition on August 14 (which instead became a bullpen game, and loss with a bad bullpen, instead).

 

Things have had a way of working themselves out in our bullpen since that point too, although not often for the better...

 

Edited September 28, 2015 by spycake

[kab21]

 

Why would Milone have a high price tag but no trade value? If he has produced, he has value. If he hasn't he doesn't. The fact that he is cost-controlled should add to his trade value.

His high-ish arb price works against his trade value. 

 

He might still be cost controlled (in arb) but he is becoming an expensive 4/5 starter.  The Twins would still be able to trade him for something but the market for soft tossing 4/5 starters earning 4-5M isn't that great.