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  1. I assume the point of sending him down was to give him time to work on his mechanics on the side. That is really hard to do as a reliever in the major leagues. Let's hope he comes back with better command.
  2. I have no clue which direction they should go. I do trust their process as shared on inside twins though.
  3. Another honest question for a mid market team. If you sign a college guy, wouldn't you likely have them through age 29-30 and a good portion of their prime. Sign a high school guy who might come up at 20-21 and you have them until 27-28 losing a few years of their prime. Is it a consideration?
  4. I would take the player with the highest upside. I don't know who that would be but the only way the mid market Twins acquire a superstar is the draft them or sign them internationally. They shouldn't go with the safe pick. Is there consensus on the player with the best upside?
  5. I saw some promise in his first start. Looking at fastball velocity, first pitch strikes and swinging strikes there is some reason to be think encouraged that he can be a number 5 starter. He was probably in the strike zone a little too much and too many of his misses wouldn't get any swings. He needs to be better at both. On the whole, his start was more encouraging to me than what we have seen from the other spot start call ups. With the double header, he should get another start and maybe he will offer more reason for hope.
  6. When you come up at 26 or older, there is little space left for upside and you have to perform. Turley needs to perform or they go to the next guy.
  7. I am not sure who the Twins should draft. I have seen McKay and Wright pitch once each. You can't weigh the decision based on one performance but you shouldn't throw that performance out either. Wright went up against a very good college team in a big game and the results were not good. It should mean something. If the Twins were absolutely sold that Wright is the number 1, his performance yesterday probably didn't change their mind. If they had not decided, that performance had to hurt.
  8. It seems like you are arguing with me even though we agree. I think my original comment about being content convinced traces back to those who felt the Twins should be investing their time in a younger player. Is a 27 year old a prospect? Maybe not in the sense that they are in the range of prime development, but I don't care so I changed it to younger. Why spend time arguing about a definition?
  9. I agree. I am not convinced they should have given this start to someone who might be seen as a prospect.
  10. I can't support a selection of Wright after watching yesterday's performance. He needed to step up and was at best ordinary. He looks a long way from being ready for the majors. On top of that, his manager did not respect the health of his arm. He threw 122 pitches with every one of those pitches beyond 100 highly stressful. He left having walked in a bases loaded run with two outs in the seventh. No way he should have pitched the seventh. Even if you put him out there, he has to come out with the first base runner of the inning. No major league or minor league manager would have threatened the health of their pitcher's arm and kept him out there.
  11. Watched and wrote about his start in the draft thread. 122 pitches. Two bad innings. Manager should never have allowed him to pitch disastrous 7th inning. He was nearing 100 pitches and velocity was down a tick in the 6th. If a single performance could hurt his draft stock, this was it.
  12. Watching the game through 5... Vanderbilt enters the game down 1-0 and needing a win. Wright had trouble second time through line up. This is not the performance he needed going into the draft. It isn't the performance his team needed. Edit. Good 6th inning. After 90+ pitches his velocity was 90s and 91s in the 6th. Stressful 7th inning. Not throwing many fastballs but did get a 93 and a few 90s. Isn't hitting the target with most pitches. At 115 pitches and full bases the manager goes out to talk but keeps him in the game. Ended up needing 7 more pitches and walked in a run. There is no way any major league team would have him still pitching if he were in the minors. 122 pitches and the last 25 were stressful! Any promising high school pitcher watching must be thinking twice about going to college.
  13. I guess I need to be convinced that... 1) getting this one start is good for the development of the prospect 2) the organization can actually learn something significant about the prospect in this small snapshot 3) it gives the Twins the best chance to win tomorrow's game. It doesn't need to be all three but if it isn't number 3 it had better be the other 2.
  14. Somewhere on the first page I put a link to the fringe five article. He has appeared at least three times each with different video clips.
  15. Absolutely. It has been lack of command and not lack of third pitch that has held him back.
  16. From 2008-2013 Ervin lived on fastball and slider throwing that combo more than 90% of the time. Command is far more important than a third pitch and last night Ervin had tremendous command.
  17. The "can't be a starter if they have two pitches" thing is a myth. Plenty of starting pitchers have been successful using two pitches 90% of the time. It is far more important to have command of both rather than have an adequate third pitch.
  18. Recent write up on fringe 5. It is probably posted elsewhere on site. He has been on this list a few times and you can follow the links back if interested. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fringe-five-baseballs-most-compelling-fringe-prospects-90/ Two pitch pitcher - fastball and curve ball. Other starters have been able to be successful using this combo 90% of the time.
  19. I am not looking at the data but my impression from watching Gibson is that he is getting strike one much more often than earlier in the season. If he gets the first strike, the curve ball has a chance to be more effective. Batter's can't let it go and sit on the fastball like they can when they are ahead in the count. So I wonder... Is he getting the first strike more often? Is he getting ahead with the fastball? Has his curve ball been more effective? I am hoping that someone can point to a pitch sequencing change since his return. If that is the case, there might be reason to hope that he can be a useful number 4/5 starter.
  20. Are you basing poorer solely on the 2017 sample or your perceived skill level of the players? I suppose it is possible that the Rangers are ready to give up on a 23 year old 2B with 33 home runs at 22. They would have to be so down on him that they would also trade a top tier pitching prospect. The Indians have Kipnis and Red Sox have Pedroia. They may not be ready to give up on them yet.
  21. I wondered the same thing. No. http://www.truebluela.com/2017/6/2/15734048/dodgers-obtain-jason-wheeler-twins-cash-considerations-rob-segedin
  22. I sure hope that our management is not basing decisions on a two month minor league data sample. At least not those available on fangraphs. I would assume they have seen Heston pitch and have video. We really rely on the talents of the eyes watching these players.
  23. Not surprised he was traded to NL. The return was not going to be significant. No reason to help a team they might be fighting with for a wild card spot.
  24. You are persistent. Probably best to just ignore each other. Didn't I advocate for using him as AAAA fill in as needed?
  25. I am saying that statistics can not be used to support an argument about Bosher's roster status. They are meaningless for future projection and will be for a while. You can look at his career statistics and path which suggests that he is a AAAA player. Teams need these guys to fill in but it is low risk when they need to be DFA'd. I am fine with Boshers taking the last spot in the pen but have no means to argue against another's opinion that it should be one of the AA pitchers. Has there been a skill level change to the point where he is part of a longer term future? No way to know with available data.
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