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  1. KirbyDome89
    I don't understand the victory lap over a guy who nobody wants to see with the Twins at any point still taking up room on the 40 man...
  2. KirbyDome89
    inb4 "payroll flexibility," "Wes Johnson tweak," "low risk"......yuck
  3. KirbyDome89
    That didn't last long...
  4. KirbyDome89
    I'm with you that judgement in retrospect is ok, and you're right, his performance and availability over the next few seasons is certainly relevant. This deal shouldn't be evaluated solely on the Twins position the day Buxton signs, but I do think current status should weigh heavily into the final verdict. If you feel it's a great move, as most of us do, I don't see much of a quibble. Maybe it's me, but like the overwhelming attitude seems to be that the deal is a win despite the fact something could go wrong.
  5. KirbyDome89
    Literally no reason not to like this deal for the Twins. They're paying a guy who legitimately could win an MVP the same amount they paid for Happ + Colome last year.
  6. KirbyDome89
    Agreed, but he was also a TR signing & extension.
  7. KirbyDome89
    If I can afford the new car at this moment, and I'm trading the old car in at the dealership, i.e. upgrading, then no, I'm not wasting money on the older vehicle when I know I won't recoup anything for it upon the trade. If the Twins wanted to upgrade, then they could've/should've just sought an upgrade. I mean end of the day it's not my money, so I don't really care about that aspect of the Cave situation, but the notion that he's just an insurance policy that enables the team to continue shopping pre and post lockout kinda flies in the face of the Twins seemingly endless commitment to the guy the last few years. I know you're defending the move and not the player here, and you're right, it's early, but they could've plucked a below average CFer who'll hit .200 out of the pile at any point in or out of season. I think they have to see something with Cave if they're willing to commit any amount of $$ to keep him.
  8. KirbyDome89
    Specific examples? No. I couldn't name a single player that signed a contract outside of arbitration and was cut, let alone one that subsequently filed a grievance. I didn't know 1 year contracts for arb eligible players weren't fully guaranteed either. He isn't uncuttable. I just feel like all signs point to him being on the active roster and he has some armor to help ensure that happens. I wouldn't say I'm freaking out. I do think it's poor use of a roster spot.
  9. KirbyDome89
    That's my understanding as well, however I do believe that @Otto von Ballpark linked this site a few days ago which further hammers home the notion that Cave is here to stay. The grievance would be over Cave's ST performance vs. his peers; it would have nothing to do with his '20 or '21 seasons. A team that's supposed to win by building from within, i.e. drafting and developing sold a 2nd round pick for $6M. To me that's a pretty clear indication of where priorities lie. Hughes and Reed each shared a long leash; I view Cave's situation as granting him one longer than I'd prefer as well. I don't doubt that if he's as atrocious as he was last season MN will move on, the quibble is over the opportunity he'll have to prove it one way or another.
  10. KirbyDome89
    Nick pointed out the lack of precedent for such moves, but there's also the potential (likelihood?) of a MLBPA grievance being filed if/when the Twins do cut Cave. This is an ownership group & FO that sold a relatively high draft pick to SD rather than just eat more of Phil Hughes contract when he was traded. If there's a decent possibility they end up on the hook for the full 800K I'd place strong odds on Cave surviving ST cuts.
  11. KirbyDome89
    That his tumble when the NL pitchers enter the mix isn't really that far. You knocked fWAR as a counting stat and then used the fWAR of NL pitchers who face near automatic outs 2-3 times per game to show that Berrios is held in higher regard than he maybe should be. If Toronto gets one great, 3 very good, and one ok season out of that deal I think they're happy. Sure, I agree Buxton is better equipped to rack up WAR in a shorter period of time but I don't see the merit in devaluing Berrios' ability to stay healthy when there isn't any history to suggest he won't be able to make those 30+ starts. Every player is "one injury away."
  12. KirbyDome89
    Are you really arguing that the current version is anywhere close to what we saw as a rookie?
  13. KirbyDome89
    Buxton at $17M AAB would still be a great deal for the Twins, and even that self imposed ceiling is a 50% raise over the 80M. Maybe it's arguing semantics but I don't have a problem with lowball being used to reference that number.
  14. KirbyDome89
    Can you point to operational moves the Twins have made, in the same vein as TB, that have turned out as favorably? Moving Pressly is probably the closest they've come to selling high. Are you thrilled about Alcala after this season? I don't know how many times it needs to be repeated on this site; TB's success isn't predicated on transactions, it's based on their ability to identify and develop the talent involved in them. Are you equally as high on the other big trade Oakland made that offseason? They finished in last place each of the next three seasons following those moves, while Donaldson put up more WAR in his first season with the Jays than all of the pieces Oakland received combined during their A's tenure.
  15. KirbyDome89
    I'd imagine getting to face a pitcher 2-3 times through the lineup might also skew some counting stats no? If durability is an asset (it is) why are players that pitched less than half of the innings Berrios did during that 5 year span being tossed out as legitimate comps? Also, doesn't fWAR incorporate FIP? Why isolate xFIP-?
  16. KirbyDome89
    "What MN was willing to do was far from this." That's ahhh, not good news for anybody still convinced this is a "reset."
  17. KirbyDome89
    Happ, Shoemaker, Martin Perez, Colon, Hector Santiago Off the top of my head I can't think of a single buy low starter that has worked out in the last 5 years. The issue is twofold; this FO isn't good at identifying candidates that actually bounce back, and the production necessary from those candidates has trended upward.
  18. KirbyDome89
    Odds that they're able to move him without eating any of that $50M? If the Twins are eating half of that and the remaining $$ allows them to go an extra year or higher AAV to land a top SS I can get on board. If they're going to use it on a couple SP stopgaps in the $10-12M range while they "reset," then I'll pass.
  19. KirbyDome89
    What gets me is that they merely have the opportunity to splurge on a pitcher who profiles similarly. It's far from a foregone conclusion that they'll acquire one through either FA or a trade.
  20. KirbyDome89
    Due to his finger injury or strange usage patterns early in the season, Dobnak never got on track in 2021. He barely pitched post injury, nearly all his awful performance came prior to either IL stint. He also was used the exact same way in '19 when there were threads wondering aloud whether he could be an All Star. We need to let of the misuse and injured narrative when it comes grading how Dobnak performed in 2021.
  21. KirbyDome89
    I still think the teams that would trade for a full year of Buxton are likely to give up more than a team that's trading for 2-3 years of Kepler. If those guys were set to hit the open market today, it's not even a discussion who would be more valuable.
  22. KirbyDome89
    If they can't sign at least one high tier pitcher and address the bullpen I'd rather the $$ go towards the rotation and the team try to piece together a bullpen. They've had some success with that, and little with "bounce back," starters. I'll take the under on Pineda hitting 160 IP. That's essentially asking him to make every scheduled start. Balazovic should be up sooner rather than later. Aside from that maybe Winder if his shoulder issue really was fatigue and not any sort of structural damage. Even if that's the case, he wore down at the 70 IP mark, I don't know how much contribution should really be expected. Duran and Canterino have basically missed two seasons at this point and both could also be dealing with more serious injury issues. Neither should be counted on for anything in '22. An inability to throw strikes rather than actual injury shut Woods Richardson down. Maybe cross your fingers and hope his brief time in A ball with Toronto is rediscovered. I don't think the cavalry is as strong as some perceive it to be.
  23. KirbyDome89
    Agree with #3 completely. I desperately want #1 to be true but I have a hard time seeing a massive turnaround next season with the work that needs to be done on the pitching side. Lip service about the intention to compete next year aside, Buxton is the fulcrum that dictates which direction this team actually goes. Maybe we need to define flashy? 3/4 teams mentioned were legitimately fighting for playoff spots in September. People love to clown on SD for spending and not making the postseason, but they also played in a division with 2 teams that won 100+ games. We need to move away from the notion that being able to select the player(s) you want by spending the money necessary to gain their services isn't an advantage. Boston has the 3rd highest payroll in baseball. A single offseason vs. the Twins' doesn't tell us much. MN can hope to be the Giants and have a ton break right for them, but that seems like a lot of what the plan was going into this year too. I also don't think the number of players signed matters. We've seen the Twins "spread the wealth," i.e. bargain shop rather than shoot for mid/high tier guys in the past, and it hasn't necessarily gone well either. It's simplistic, but really it boils down to choosing players that perform.
  24. KirbyDome89
    You can argue that the Sox are a good team without needing to prop up the AL Central. It was the ONLY division in baseball to have every team other than the winner finish under .500. The Central is hands down the least competitive division in the AL, and very likely in all of baseball. The Twins lost 89 games, KC 88, and Detroit 85; drawing the line at 90 seems a little too arbitrary.
  25. KirbyDome89
    Cron was essentially a league average hitter who provided no defensive value in '19. Why would the Twins commit to him at 1B beyond that year? Kepler, Arraez, and Kirilloff are all better than that.
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