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Urshela Ushers in New Hope at Third Base
KirbyDome89 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't recall a single negative thing publicly said about Donaldson by teammates during his Twins tenure; and I haven't heard one since his departure either. We don't have to enjoy some aspects of his personality, and I'm on record saying I haven't, but we're also not in the clubhouse with him. To not so subtly imply that his presence created a toxicity that brought the team down last year is most certainly scapegoating him.- 30 replies
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Urshela Ushers in New Hope at Third Base
KirbyDome89 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
"Before Opening Day, Byron Buxton called the atmosphere in the clubhouse “night and day” different as opposed to last season. That may not be directly tied to Donaldson, but there’s no shortage of instances where he’s been seen as someone who could rub people the wrong way." How long before we can stop scapegoating Donaldson?- 30 replies
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Yeah, I'm not bemoaning pissing away some of the Pohlad's $$, or the potential usage of these guys as I hope/agree that the leash should be short (especially considering Archer's contract structure). I just feel like there were better ways to allocate a finite resource. If Bundy pre lockout is the safety net, ok I guess, but doubling down with Archer makes no sense, especially if the FO was going to be aggressive in the trade market and they're this comfy starting the season with a rotation full of question marks.
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As a general rule, yes, but that's lacking some context. It's fair to question what you're controlling for those 3 years. Paddack needs to reverse the trend he's followed for the last couple years, and stay healthy. That's no small task. The Twins are in a better position to "win," this swap because of their need at SP and the relative value of SPs in comparison to RPs.
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That would be ideal. It also makes me wonder why they're investing roughly $10M into two guys they can't wait to shove aside, especially if this season is about getting the "kids," innings.
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Not everyone can turn water in wine. The FO is certainly taking a swing here, but I'm not going to hold it against the field staff if Paddack hovers somewhere around his performance level the last couple seasons. His elbow and the fact that years of control + "turning him around," are the talking points of this swap make me nervous. I'm not as devastated by Rogers departure as others seem to be. It's a future bet that puts a dent in this season's bullpen, but my expectations are incredibly low given the current state of the rotation so overall it's a big "whatever," from me.
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If we're just talking about the bullpen, I agree, getting young arms innings + having options is the way to go. I can get behind piggy backing your bottom 2, maybe 3 arms, but I don't know if you can get through a whole season with nearly an entire rotation that will max out at 5 IP. I could be way off. Gray is the "workhorse," of sorts, but with his slow start, what's he going to end up at? 160 IP? They can run Archer and Bundy into the ground, but those are the guys you want to piggy back, and if they're chewing up innings something has probably gone wrong. Once expanded rosters are gone and you start factoring in the 40 man crunch, innings/rest restrictions, injuries, schedule crunches/extra innings, poor performances/reduced availability/trust in leverage situations, ect. it just seems like A LOT to juggle over the course of a year without having a couple guys, or at least one, who can go out and ease some of the innings burden every 4th or 5th day. Maybe my stodgy old man side is just out in full force today....
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The decision to sit out the initial wave of FA removed any doubt about where the eggs were being placed. I don't think there's a singular acquisition that dramatically changes the outlook for this season, or the direction the FO has chosen, but from a stability standpoint, a front end arm is incredibly valuable beyond just the year at hand. The pitching situation seems bungled, even if the plan is to bet the next 5-6 years on this prospect group.
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Twins to Sign RHP Chris Archer to One-Year Deal
KirbyDome89 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I see the prospect value holding steady; 30-40 IP won't make dramatic changes or provide much of a SS to make long term assessments. I guess I don't know why we'd assume the Twins would pay a premium in July for a shorter rental if they aren't doing it now. If they're comfortable starting with the season with this rotation, I don't see them being all that motivated to wheel and deal mid season. They've made moves, but they've sold far more often than they've purchased. Romo is probably their biggest "get." There's no precedent for acquiring the type of impact arm (Berrios tier) this rotation needs. I'm out on expecting a reliever or middling end rotation piece to move the needle. -
Twins to Sign RHP Chris Archer to One-Year Deal
KirbyDome89 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Sure, but I'm guessing even that won't be until May at the earliest, barring injury or an implosion. Realistically you're looking at a couple months of guys in and out of the rotation. I just don't think their stock, in the eyes of the Twins or the rest of the league (for better or worse) changes much in that time. Flipping Jaime Garcia is one thing. What I'm really asking is do you expect them to commit to making a big time purchase and subsequently outbid other potential contenders? There's no history of that, and it's clear they aren't willing to throw multiple years or $$ at arms outside of the deadline either. -
A rotation that isn't composed almost entirely of bounce "bounce back candidates," and question marks? They have a lineup that can win playoff games, even with the downgrade at C and possibly 3B. There is/was plenty of room for at least 2, probably 3, solid starters while still prioritizing getting the younger arms innings. You don't have to worry about gutting the team; if they don't have at minimum 2 reliable mid to front end starters from this prospect group that job is already well underway.
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Twins to Sign RHP Chris Archer to One-Year Deal
KirbyDome89 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Falvey Shows Flexibility in Twins Decisions
KirbyDome89 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The same "flexibility," tanked last season, and has played a massive role in the state of the pitching staff.- 33 replies
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Twins To Sign Carlos Correa
KirbyDome89 replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Short term commitments and a payroll that hovers middle of the pack to lower third. The Correa signing falls in line with everything this FO values; brief tenure and "low risk." It's a great move for this year. Celebrate it for what it is, but let's not pretend this is some crazy venture into the unknown. I'd hold off on dishing up crow considering the current starting rotation + bullpen, or the "necessary," potential downgrades they made to pay Correa. I too hope the gamble pays off. -
Twins To Sign Carlos Correa
KirbyDome89 replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Did a double take when I saw the headline. It doesn't matter if Correa is using the Twins to reset his value, it's a great deal for at least this season. I hate the opt outs, but he was never committing to a deal of this length without them. -
Sonny Gray Gives Twins a New Jose Berrios
KirbyDome89 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'm not assigning fault, I'm adjusting the frame. It's going to be years before this "debate," is remotely close to settled.- 79 replies
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Sonny Gray Gives Twins a New Jose Berrios
KirbyDome89 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'll start with saying that I don't give a **** about rehashing whether or not Berrios should have been moved. The longest FA pitching contract in 6 seasons at the helm for this FO is 2 years. Their two largest trade acquisitions to date, Odorizzi and Gray, each had/have 2 years remaining. Rather than extend the best pitcher this franchise has had in nearly two decades (an admittedly low bar to clear) they opted to trade him with 1.5 years remaining. They completely sat out FA this offseason despite desperately needing arms. There's a ton of evidence/activity or lack thereof, that suggests this FO won't commit years or money to pitchers. That shouldn't be debatable at this point.- 79 replies
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Sonny Gray Gives Twins a New Jose Berrios
KirbyDome89 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
As much as I'd love "won't spend above X," to be a universally acknowledged truth on TD, it isn't, and arguments where contract amounts/length are at the center veer into bad faith territory (not accusing you of doing this) because of it. You're right, it's a dead horse, but we also need to acknowledge that removing an option from the table isn't the same thing as never having that option to begin with.- 79 replies
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People were complaining about him last year while he was posting a 127 OPS+ too.
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Donaldson's contract wasn't a hindrance; we need to move past that notion. Even after acquiring Gray the Twins were still roughly $40M short of payroll for Opening Day last season.
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My fear is that it won't be utilized. I can absolutely see a scenario where 15M is spent and spun as necessary for whatever transpires, but payroll trends in the wrong direction. I don't view the NY trade as necessary for whatever hypothetical signing occurs at SS.
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Sure, if he falls apart early this season it looks smart. If he posts another high OPS+ and slows down next year, eh it's probably at a wash, assuming Urshela's 2021 is an aberration. I guess I'm just less certain this is the year Donaldson stops mashing baseballs. All Twins fans should feel this way.
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Sanchez's road splits were pretty bad offensively last year to match his atrocious D. He's an obvious downgrade. They don't really lose defensively at 3B, but Donaldson has been basically an automatic 125 OPS+ or better since becoming a regular. That's absolute peak Urshela and he has to find his way there again. You're right, if they absolutely max out all the $$ this year then there's value in the swap. If payroll is slashed and I have to listen to "they've got X amount for down the road..." then yeah.
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No doubt, but I think Pineda's injury certainty plays into that need. Bundy threw 90 innings last year, and is far from a lock to make it through the year, be it injury or effectiveness. Ryan and Ober are going to be on their own pitch counts too. Gray is the only current starter they can unleash on Day 1 and not have to babysit.
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The current rotation, or lack thereof for that matter. I'll take him, but it's not a move to be celebrated. It's a bare minimum type signing. I think a lot of posters (not lumping you in here) overestimate how many innings a lot of these prospects will be able to throw in the majors this season. If it's Pineda vs. ownership pocketing more $$ and running out an even more washed vet and/or AAAA filler I'll take the former.
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