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You mean the same Joe Ryan who was immediately inserted in the starting rotation? Are you going to tell me the Twins developed Pablo Lopez next?
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Does it really matter if you're getting Bundy type performance in his absence?
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There is no pipeline. It's just a constant churn of names, year after year. This was Falvey's 9th season and Ober is still the only SP this "pipeline," has spit out to post anything other than fringy back end type production.
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Derek Falvey’s Pitch for Hope in Twins Territory
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You need to stop characterizing the "plenty of really good 2B," quote as Lewis somehow sticking up for his teammates. He wasn't rushing to defend the subpar play of Julien or Farmer, he was using their 2B status as a shield for his own desire to not play that position. Yeah, I think it's juvenile to equate criticism for refusing to play 2B with some kind of vendetta against the guy.
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Nobody in this thread is blaming Lewis for the injuries, and I even said I can appreciate his candor even if I don't agree with what he has to say. That said, Royce playing 2B was not a conversion, he was not being asked to make a career altering position swap, and the Twins didn't ask him to slide over at mid season. The team was spiraling in September, and in a last ditch effort to put their best bats in the lineup for the remainder of the season they asked Royce to occasionally play 2B for a few weeks. Again, say nothing, play 2B, or choose not to play 2B and own the decision. Royce chose to drag his teammates into discussion to provide cover for himself. Baldelli doesn't need to be the scapegoat here. There's zero chance he was excited to plug Julien or Farmer in at 2B. I'm surprised how terrible that 2B duo was is seemingly being lost in the discussion. His offseason work at 2B is entirely irrelevant. The team didn't need (or likely want) him to play there in 2025. They needed him, out of desperation, to be there semi-regularly for a few weeks in 2024 and he passed. Yeah, we both know that direct public admonishment from management and/or teammates is incredibly rare. I highly doubt things are at that point with Royce, but if that's the bar to clear then he'll likely forever remain an angel in your eyes. He can still be a super talented player with a nice career ahead of him, and make comments or decisions that come across as self serving. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.
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This is such a juvenile argument. Being critical of Royce's decision not to play 2B isn't "hating," on him.
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Oof that's a stretch. No, I'm saying that the "plenty of good 2B," claim was a way to deflect criticism. Clearly the Twins didn't believe (rightfully so) that they had even competent options at 2B, otherwise they wouldn't be asking their 3B to slide over with 4 weeks left in the season. How about just say nothing and occasionally play 2B so the team isn't continuing to feed PAs to Julien and/or Farmer for the last month. Lol yep, 8 innings is "some," but it's 8 innings. Like I said, we never saw him there again after the public comments. Are we supposed to believe Rocco not penciling him after those comments is coincidental? Idk how much time Lewis put in at 2B in the offseason, nor do I really care, because the 2B ship had sailed at that point. This is such a weird comment. Kepler's desire to play only RF wasn't a secret. I think his unwillingness to cover CF was selfish and hurt the team at times. I don't ever recall myself, or others, being told that being critical of that decision was akin to holding a grudge. I think if another player, one who wasn't sold to fans as a superstar face of the franchise, was making similar comments the reaction would be far less gentle.
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The bolded is revisionist. He also said the team had good 2B, plural, which absolutely wasn't true, hence the willingness of the Twins to put Royce at 2B simply to keep his bat (along with others) in the lineup for a push at the postseason. He didn't play "some 2B," he played a whopping 8 innings with only 1 start, after which he made it known he didn't want to be there and like magic, he never appeared there again. Lewis is 26, he's been playing professionally for 8 season's now. Lewis is certainly allowed to be candid, and there's part of me that does find it refreshing, even if I don't love what he has to say, but I think he's beyond the point of being able to use the kid moniker as cover.
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No, he just publicly complained about being asked to play 2B and played off his angst over the request as some sort of team first move when in fact, it was the opposite. It clearly worked, Lewis didn't play on the right side of the infield after he made the comments so while he technically didn't outright refuse the move, his reaction in essence forced the same outcome. The Twins wanted his bat in the lineup, and having Lewis available at 2B allowed them to consistently put their best bats (Lewis included) in those remaining games. The team wasn't asking him to shift to 2B just for the hell of it...
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What does slashing payroll and diluting the MLB talent do to solve the "striving for mediocrity," problem? All the same decision makers (and ownership) are still in place. If that group has zero interest in pushing in resources to win games, why should we believe the goal of mediocrity suddenly shifts? Also this is the same management group that has struggled with talent identification/development right? Now we're putting more eggs in that basket?
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Idc which disappointing '25 season anybody prefers, the point was that if we're criticizing Jax for being inconsistent, Bradley is equally guilty.
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If Jax is inconsistent, I've got some bad news for you regarding Bradley...
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For being such a huge Ryan supporter you seem to be (conveniently) forgetting how his '21 season played out. He was in AAA with TB at the deadline, the Twins called him up immediately after he was acquired, he made 5 starts and threw a whopping 27 innings. I'll let you figure out why his WAR total that season was less than what Bradley accumulated in over 5x the number of innings thrown last year. Is it really that hard to show a modicum of good faith? Seriously....
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You just can't help stretching this stuff can you.... Bradley was "better," by WAR (pitching WAR no less) in one singular season (1.5 vs. 1.7) but in reality those two seasons were virtually identical. Also, we should note that the Joe Ryan season in question is his worst as a pro vs. Bradley's best, and that Bradley hasn't come close to matching anything Ryan has done in any of Ryan's other three seasons. Ditto. Heavy Dave St. Peter i.e. be happy with an a** tier product, type energy from your posts.
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The end of '23!? He posted a 5 something ERA that September, which I guess was an improvement on his near 8 ERA in July that had him back in AAA for all of August. I guess you can cherry pick individual games (you're almost there anyway) across his career in an effort to get to 2 seasons worth of starts, but I doubt even that'd make the argument work. No, you were very clear that he was a mid rotation starter for 2 seasons. I'd want to stop arguing too if I backed myself into a corner...
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You said he was a mid rotation arm for two years, now it's "mid-backend for nearly 2." How far are we going to slide the goalposts? He was terrible in '23. Terrible. He was decent last year, and it's debatable whether that was true mid rotation performance but it doesn't really matter, because he pitched himself out of the Rays rotation and back to AAA by July. So where are you getting two seasons worth of mid rotation performance? He didn't even make it through half of this year before being demoted, and 2023 is off the table so.....
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You understand how easy/fast it is to fact check these types of claims right?
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Yeah, I am. I think he's much more likely the mid-low .600 OPS guy we've seen the last 1.5 seasons than the near 1.000 OPS guy he's been for the last 2 weeks.
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With a near 1.000 OPS. I mean.... We're talking about nearly 600 PAs vs 50 with Lee. Congrats to him on stringing together a few nice weeks here, but guys go on mini heaters all the time. Royce was "heating up," around the ASB. How's that one going? We seriously need to stop conflating realistic expectations with negativity.
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Keaschall is going to be a borderline top 10 position player in all of baseball next year? Jfc..... Brooks Lee hasn't even pushed into positive WAR territory, but yeah, "build an offense around," that. You're definitely not begging for 90 losses... Toxic positivity exists.
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