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  1. KirbyDome89
    Ok? What single player was stopping a historic collapse? I mean why on earth is that the bar to clear? Julien -.2 WAR in 2024 Varland 7.61 ERA in 2024 Topa was a nothing-burger overall but absolutely in 2024 They turned one replacement level roster spot into 2 sub replacement level roster spots...
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    You're arguing the money was well spent. I'm offering counterpoints, so yes, I'm sure from your perspective my posts are "negative," but that has zero bearing on their objectivity. Credit for admitting that we have no clue how to divvy up the offseason spending, but since Margot by himself (plus the DeSclafani/Topa $$) was enough to zero out any Polanco savings it's best not to directly tie any of the FA additions to that leftover cash. I didn't claim Margot and use him as an example of MLB additions from that swap that actively hurt the roster, similarly, you don't get to claim Santana in an effort to clean up the lack of production.
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    Again with the objectivity thing huh. Are we redefining that word? Why does the leftover cash only go towards Santana? Why not Margot? Why not some combination of Jay Jackson, Okert, Staumont, ect?
  4. KirbyDome89
    Oof, we'll disagree about what's being contributed. Anybody who isn't lock step with you is biased, "wrong," and/or a "weirdo." I'll pass on that policing.
  5. KirbyDome89
    Feel free to show me where I said it was a terrible trade. Actually though, point that part out or chill on the strawman... GG can "save," the swap. Sure. The Twins parted out an asset, and the only remaining piece of value is GG. A suddenly cash strapped org pissed away valuable dollars on non-contributors, i.e. actively harmed the major league team during what were supposed to be contention years. Sorry, but trying to hand waive away the spending error as "buying a prospect," or pretending like the move was some future 4D chess swap that hinged on the Twins getting GG is a bridge too far.
  6. KirbyDome89
    Agreed, they rolled the dice on DeSclafani staying healthy and they lost. They had to know that was a distinct possibility after he was shut down with an elbow injury the previous season. Topa put up -2 WPA while pitching the bulk of his innings in low leverage, and he missed an entire season. FWIW his bWAR was .4, which tied him with......Erasmo Ramirez......for the season. WAR is missing the mark here. You're not accounting for the damage done by the swap. The Twins were counting on DeSclafani being their 5th starter, instead, Varland imploded. Julien flopped at 2B. Topa was a negative contributor, or at best a nothing-burger.
  7. KirbyDome89
    Not counting your eggs before they hatch is hate? When the Twins traded Polanco fans were convinced Julien was a long term starter at 2B and the club would have to find a way to squeeze soon to be superstar Brooks Lee into the IF.
  8. KirbyDome89
    The fact that people actually believe these owners are anywhere close to losing money on these franchises is crazy to me... The Pirates have been a terribly run franchise, but the prospects for vets swaps aren't intrinsically problematic. I mean, what are you supposed to do as a FO, tell the fans to go **** themselves at all times? Do you just sit around and act as a permanent feeder org for big market clubs while selling hope that everything coalesces at the perfect time to make a playoff run? Are the Twins the Pirates? No, because Pittsburgh has a much longer history of recent ineptitude. If you slashed the Twins' payroll in half, i.e. start subtracting guys like Lopez, Correa, Buxton, and even some marginal FA signings, are the Twins not a team that has failed with development and largely acted rudderless the last 3-4 years? I think you're massively understating the impact ownership has on putting a competitive team on the field.
  9. KirbyDome89
    Ah, must've drawn that name from a hat. Crazy...
  10. KirbyDome89
    The Twins cratered after selling the vets. Who was so disillusioned post deadline? Correa was sold off. France and Bader went to winning clubs. Castro (if he counts as a vet) was moved. Vazquez was hurt for a huge chunk of the 2nd half, and was terrible whether or not the club was doing well. Buxton continued to have a career year. Jeffers was better in the 2nd half. Lee, Lewis, Martin, Clemens, Wallner, Larnach ect. aren't vets, but Lee was consistently disappointing all year. Lewis actually improved in the 2nd half. Martin played pretty well after coming up. Wallner continued a down year then got hurt. Clemens turned back into a pumpkin. So again, who are these vets that become so frustrated by the fire sale they started tanking games by turning in half *** performances? I don't doubt Chicago has a least a couple players to be excited about. Is there a team that doesn't? So the Sox having a better record for the last 2 months isn't indicative of them being the better team, because of a soft schedule, but the offensive numbers from a select few players, against that same soft schedule, is indicative of their true talent level. Hmmm...
  11. KirbyDome89
    Lee, Lewis, and Martin are all high 1st round picks that haven't come close (maybe Lewis briefly) to meeting even moderate expectations. Wallner had a down year. Miranda won't be with the org. Idk why Julien is being lumped in with Gasper et al, he was definitely in future plans before flopping. Larnach just reached arb and he might not be around. That's a pretty good collection of pre arb "talent," that hasn't worked out to this point. Now the goalposts have shifted and it's the minor league system that has the "real," talent?
  12. KirbyDome89
    Oof Idk why you're bristling at the mention of Skubal, you brought up the Bundy-esque beginning to his career as a "I'm not saying I'm just saying..." type example, but yeah, totally unfair of me to point out that this FO hasn't come anywhere close to developing an arm of that caliber and Skubal doesn't belong in the conversation. Oh, and if we're revisiting old posts, I did also immediately clarify that Skubal isn't the bar to clear. Maybe that was lost. Don't let me stop you from celebrating a new coat of paint on the same flawed house.
  13. KirbyDome89
    The Sox are a rudderless org and nowhere close to being a considered a talented team. You aren't full of talent and getting outperformed by that team.
  14. KirbyDome89
    So they've just been playing opossum the last few years? Guys like Lee, Lewis, ect weren't supposed to be more productive?
  15. KirbyDome89
    The White Sox (the only AL team with a worse record) outplayed the Twins in the 2nd half of the season. That doesn't exactly scream tons of talent.
  16. KirbyDome89
    Ok, show me the Tarik Skubal clone this org has produced. We don't even need to set the bar that high. In 9 years this vaunted "pipeline," has spit out one (singular) SP who has provided any level of production above what Dylan Bundy gave the Twins. Right now it's Matthews, Festa, SWR, Bradly, and Abel. Before it was Winder, Enlow, Canterino, Varland, Thorpe, ect.... The tl;dr here is that I wouldn't celebrate the lack of Dylan Bundy-esque FA signings until this team can actually, with any sort of consistency, do better than Bundy-esque production at the back end of the rotation.
  17. KirbyDome89
    Ober had a really nice 2023 and 2024. He was not a fringe back end guy for either of years.
  18. KirbyDome89
    You mean the same Joe Ryan who was immediately inserted in the starting rotation? Are you going to tell me the Twins developed Pablo Lopez next?
  19. KirbyDome89
    Does it really matter if you're getting Bundy type performance in his absence?
  20. KirbyDome89
    There is no pipeline. It's just a constant churn of names, year after year. This was Falvey's 9th season and Ober is still the only SP this "pipeline," has spit out to post anything other than fringy back end type production.
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    In the particular case of Matt Wallner, or players who fit a similar profile, I do think looking only at OPS tends to overrate offensive contribution.
  23. KirbyDome89
    You need to stop characterizing the "plenty of really good 2B," quote as Lewis somehow sticking up for his teammates. He wasn't rushing to defend the subpar play of Julien or Farmer, he was using their 2B status as a shield for his own desire to not play that position. Yeah, I think it's juvenile to equate criticism for refusing to play 2B with some kind of vendetta against the guy.
  24. KirbyDome89
    Nobody in this thread is blaming Lewis for the injuries, and I even said I can appreciate his candor even if I don't agree with what he has to say. That said, Royce playing 2B was not a conversion, he was not being asked to make a career altering position swap, and the Twins didn't ask him to slide over at mid season. The team was spiraling in September, and in a last ditch effort to put their best bats in the lineup for the remainder of the season they asked Royce to occasionally play 2B for a few weeks. Again, say nothing, play 2B, or choose not to play 2B and own the decision. Royce chose to drag his teammates into discussion to provide cover for himself. Baldelli doesn't need to be the scapegoat here. There's zero chance he was excited to plug Julien or Farmer in at 2B. I'm surprised how terrible that 2B duo was is seemingly being lost in the discussion. His offseason work at 2B is entirely irrelevant. The team didn't need (or likely want) him to play there in 2025. They needed him, out of desperation, to be there semi-regularly for a few weeks in 2024 and he passed. Yeah, we both know that direct public admonishment from management and/or teammates is incredibly rare. I highly doubt things are at that point with Royce, but if that's the bar to clear then he'll likely forever remain an angel in your eyes. He can still be a super talented player with a nice career ahead of him, and make comments or decisions that come across as self serving. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.
  25. KirbyDome89
    This is such a juvenile argument. Being critical of Royce's decision not to play 2B isn't "hating," on him.
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