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  1. In a vacuum there's nothing wrong with taking a look at a guy like Drake. In fact, you'd hope a FO would always be trying to find that diamond in the coal mine. The issue is what that looks costs this team right now. He's receiving innings that ideally would be given to younger bullpen arms in AAA that haven't had a chance to stick with the Twins. The organization can audition an early 30s journeyman anytime they wan't; those types aren't hard to find on waivers. It'd be nice to have an idea of whether the minor league arms can contribute or be counted on as actual "depth," before they're jettisoned out of the organization.
  2. No, you aren't nuts, but I'd say that every team has a fairly good gauge of the talent in opponents' systems. Failing to give MLB innings to guys who you think might actually help your team the following year is only hurting yourself IMO. Rule V picks reach into the lower level of the minors sometimes. It's essentially impossible to "hide," talented players without actually protecting them.
  3. I don't think anybody expected a complete 180 by this point, but I believe incremental improvement both on and off the field as well as a departure from old "habits," was a realistic expectation for this group. I think a large source of the frustration is the fact that we haven't seen much of either of those goals.
  4. Curtiss threw 2/3 of an inning over 2 games and they sent him down. Busenitz has thrown 13 innings scattered across 3 months. That isn't really giving those guys a chance.
  5. I agree that seems to be the vibe. I get that the previous FO didn't leave the pitching cupboards full, but it amazes that none of these bullpen arms are worth keeping. You'd think that at least a couple of these guys could be serviceable MLB arms. It makes me wonder whether the relief group doesn't fit the profile this FO is after, in which case you'd hope they were able or willing to work with and/or develop a wider range of players.
  6. Plenty of posts across different threads
  7. All these terms: "preserve long-term flexibility, pursue value, follow your limits," are a kind way of saying aim low. It's putting a positive spin on shopping in the bargain aisle. That 10-20 number is relative to the talent only in that FA class, and by all accounts it wasn't a particularly good one, which explains the slow winter. I appreciate your fascination with how long I've followed the Twins but feel free to chill on that subject. Yeah, I understand that they aren't Bautista level bad, that's never been the case I've made. If we're just going to hold Lynn and Morrison up against some of the worst signings in team history and clap because they weren't scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel then what are really doing? The fact that neither Lynn nor Morrison was Rondell White doesn't mean the signings weren't lower level. I never said they'd be at home, or that no other team showed any interest whatsoever. Stop with that. Sure, maybe the Twins did slightly overpay to get these guys on one year deals, but in your rush to pat this FO on the back for those signings you're completely ignoring why those players are able to be signed to those deals in the first place.
  8. No, in fact I would've been on board with a better offer than what the Cubs gave him. I realize long term commitments are risky ect. but at some you have the take the plunge and it didn't look like the Twins were going to get an ace caliber pitcher anywhere else. Like I said, 5/100M would've been a steal, but if you really want player X sometimes you just have to pay sticker. This is where we disagree, I don't think they did either. Darvish was expected to sign for 6/150+M before FA began. I don't think they were ever truly on board with bringing him in, hence the low offer, and I don't think they every really backed out either because they did actually make an offer.
  9. When the best or really only defense of a transaction is "the FO knows more than you/we do," it's safe to assume it isn't a good one....
  10. That's great for you but it's irrelevant to the conversation. Reality is that the Twins made an offer, albeit low, and weren't successful. We shouldn't be praising them for avoiding an apparent mistake that they obviously had some intention to make.
  11. They weren't huh? I guess I missed where they had interest around the league and the Twins were able to convince them to forego better deals to sign with them for 1 year and 1 year + a team option. "The market fell out on," i.e. bargain bin. They retained that illustrious payroll flexibility because nobody was willing to hand either of those guys a long term deal.
  12. You're missing the point. We agree that 5/100isM would've been a steal. We agree that the market was depressed. IMO that's all the more reason to question the desire to spend the $$ it takes to bring back elite talent. If they're making offers that clearly aren't likely to get a deal done in a depressed market, where as you said, the big FA players are sitting out, why should we believe they'll pay sticker price in 19'? Of course they wouldn't have predicted Darvish would have the season he has. The "foresee," part was tongue in cheek. What that means is they shouldn't be given credit for "avoiding signing Darvish," because they submitted a lowball bid, and they shouldn't in turn be praised for that low offer.
  13. The Darvish situation was a black eye all around for the FO. They were "in," on him to the tune of $100isM over 5 years, which was an offer that was never likely to get a deal done. Darvish eventually signed a deal that was still considerably under expected market value. If he truly was a priority and the organization was actually willing to make a serious offer heading into FA then I have a hard time believing they couldn't have beaten the Cub's offer. That quickly morphed into the FO being wise not to sign him. If they could foresee his struggles this season then why bother with the 5 year offer + media hype in the first place? They dug Lynn and Morrison out of the bargain bin, which isn't anything new for this organization. They'll be players in FA ,if for no reason other than they won't be able to fill all their roster holes internally. The goal should be to aim higher than "value signings." IMO there isn't much to suggest that'll happen.
  14. I guess that depends on what your definition of "give up," is. I'm playing devil's advocate a bit here because I'm still holding out hope for both of them, but I don't see a readjustment of expectations as giving up.
  15. Any light you can shine on who those talented players might be?
  16. Not sure I understand the criticism of Dozer here. There's nothing to suggest he was a malcontent or anything along those lines. If the report is true, and that's a big "if," can we blame him for wanting out? From his perspective he's watched this FO sell on two teams, one competing and the other expected to compete, and based on the Twins action/inaction and Dozier's comments there wasn't much interest, if any, in bringing him back. We can argue that some of those FO decisions were good baseball decisions, and I'd be inclined to agree to a point, but IMO Dozier handled all of it professionally. I have 0 issues with him wanting to spend the last few months of his contract on a contender
  17. Watching the Dodgers game right now... Dozier having a nice debut Great game I might just stick to this the rest of the season
  18. I'd prefer the Twins don't bring him back because I'd like to actually enjoy watching the end of games... If you can convince me he won't be used as a closer then maybe I can stomach the team picking up his option; maybe....
  19. Anybody else tired of watching the Twins give up 2nd base with runners at the corners? Good god.....
  20. There's nothing about the entire situation that is a positive, but I've never claimed that. Both the tweets and the ovation are being portrayed in the most negative light possible, i.e. the tweets are blatant racism and the ovation is in support of the racism. Like I said, we know that quoting lyrics isn't the same thing as maliciously using the language tweeted. In that same vein, the ovation could easily be a push back against the trial by social media, and I've already touched on the "our guy," aspect of it. Racing to label Hader a racist ect. is willfully ignoring any nuance. I'm not going to defend the content of the lyrics, or any subsequent RT. That isn't what I'm doing here, but rather than a telescope, what's being used is a microscope (one with filters) to become selectively outraged. You're right, we're very close on this, and it wasn't my intention to imply that we aren't if that's how you read it.
  21. The pessimist in me 100% agrees.......but If nothing else they'll get another season to "see what they have."
  22. That very well could be the case.
  23. I'd love to hear him elaborate on his comments from earlier in the season regarding his "frustrations." We probably never will, but it'd be nice to have some idea of what was going on.
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