Okay everyone ... just stop. Really. If you don't like a subject, then don't post on it. Seriously. Yes, we've heard many of these arguments before rehashed time and time and time and time again ... so what? Skip over it. Until things start happening on the day to day basis at ST and when the season starts, there just isn't much to talk about. However, that said, despite what posters have said, this thread has NOT been respectful. In four pages we've had several posts removed and three moderator/owner warnings ... this makes a fourth. If you can't make your points without calling someone an idiot or moron or whatever, then they aren't points worthy to make. But for those who want to discuss this yet again, and bring the same arguments pro/con, again ... sorry to say, but you are going to get a few who are just tired of it. As much as you are asking for them to ignore the thread, you would be wise to ignore their comments, too. You don't need to respond and turn this into a bicker-fest. One more warning, one more stray from topic, one more disrespectful comment from anyone, and the thread is done.