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Okay ... I disagree with much of what you wrote ... but we are not getting into a broad political discussion here ... we are talking about one statue at Target Field. It doesn't change the history. No one is trying to rewrite history, but as many here have commented ... they didn't know about Griffith's comments, that it shed new light onto the situation.

Removing a statue does not remove the history. I’m fine with removing the honor. It doesn’t change what’s already been. I think it’s also okay to stop saying, ‘Well, that’s just the way it was then,’ and acknowledge the behavior as wrong in order to correct behavior today, imo..

Nice write up, Seth ... thank you!

I’m not sure it was a player. It sounded like someone that was around the locker room when both Hunter and Hawkins were on the team, and was still there when Hawkins and Hunter were hired to be in the FO, and then was fired/released/let go. But I can’t remember who all was around then not.

I was just going to say this ... I mean ... HELLO! Renabanena? If that's not No. 1 on anyone's list, go back and start over.

Fear. Anger. Frustration. Sadness. Indifference. Loss. Apathy. Fear. Anger. Frustration. Sadness. Emotions are powerful things. They can lead us down paths for betterment and fuel change. But they can also cause harm as we lash out because of them. In this thread they have run the gamut and I see no further purpose to continue with this discussion here and now, today, in this thread, on this website. I do think further conversation and thought out in the world is necessary, but not right here and now in this thread. Just to remind everyone what is in our comments policy: "Please be mindful that comments relating to racial, cultural, religious, national, gender and sexual identity can be offensive, ditto locker room talk, even when there is no disrespectful intent." Please be mindful. Thank you.

Point taken. And let's not go there. We've raised enough issues for one week.

Or maybe understand that your heroes are also only human. And I still <3 Rosie and always will! No matter what!

I think I'm one of two moderators who represents a 'diverse' demographic being the lone female on the moderator team. While I can't know what PoC go through, and have their entire lives, I do know what it's like to be disrespected, demeaned, disregarded and dismissed solely because of my gender. How's that for alliteration? Being on this site has been TOUGH at times. TOUGH. But I'm tough, because I've had to be, so I've stuck it out, mostly because I love baseball. But there have been many times i've just wanted to pack it up and leave ... ask Brock, because I've written to him dozens of times over the years, 'I quit!' And the sucker I am, I let him talk me into sticking around. Remember all those threads about Sano and the accusations of sexual assault? Yeah, the things being said about women in those threads were horrible to read, especially when it went into areas about women in general and what they hope to gain by crying rape. How about the anonymity I used to have, yet a couple of posters felt it necessary to determine my actual identity and broadcast it on another site. While i kind of laughed at that, and what a dumb thing to do, and rolled my eyes at the idiocy, but still ... there was nefarious intent behind it. Good times. We now have policies regarding that. There have been other women here and there on this website, and more recently we've added a few more ... but it has not been the easiest road being in the minority. There aren't many who really, truly 'get it' and have easily dismissed my concerns. But it's never intentional, which makes it that much more difficult to call out. It has also been difficult navigating complaints from other posters here who feel unwelcome here because of mostly casual, unintentional biases or unintentional stereotyping. It hasn't come up a lot, but it does come up. No one ever goes out of their way intentionally to offend someone, but yet things get said in jest or casually, without real regard or mindfulness about perspective from another 'demographic'. And yet, when we try to have a discussion, it is usually met with defensiveness, I didn't mean it that way, lighten up, you're being overly sensitive or this isn't the place to talk about that. How do you deal with actions that are so unintentional yet cause discomfort or hurt? We have this line in our comments policy: "Please be mindful that comments relating to racial, cultural, religious, national, gender and sexual identity can be offensive, ditto locker room talk, even when there is no disrespectful intent." It calls for all of us to just think a little, try to think of something from someone else's perspective. Am I perfect? Heck no. We're all only human, and I get it wrong, too often ... but I do really try. It's tiring ... either side of it ... it's tiring. Really listening is tiring, taking action that is met with disdain is tiring, putting up with disrespect is tiring. Many times it's just easier to go along with it. But I think trying to think a little more broadly, to maybe go out of our comfort zones just a little, to try and read what we post through someone else's eyes, just might make it a better world. One little website at a time. While I don't condone violence, at all, while I've looked on in horror and heartache of all that's transpired, I understand the frustration because of the alliteration I mentioned above. It's all I got.

Thanks, Tom. I had asked for such a list in the thread in the Sports Bar. Some of us are from out of town, but still want to help our ‘home’ even though we can’t be there to do so.

But I don't think the goal is division and click bait ... it's a humanity problem. Humanity is all of us, together. It's all of us who made it divisive, not Nick. Edit: I see you answered that already.

Well said. thanks, Nick.

The Fort Myers facility, the parking lot, anyway, is currently being used as a COVID testing site. At least it was when I left there two weeks ago. So, not sure if that's the place for it?

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He's also involved in ocean cleanup projects, from what I see on his Instagram page

While most want baseball back, all you've said above only emphasizes why it's unrealistic. I guess if there's a will there's a way ... but as I see it, the only way back will compromise the safety of all involved, one way or the other. I mean, we could have them play in full hazmat suits!

Yes, she does

Rosario is #1, hands down. No contest. I’d put Cruz up there, too.

Oh! The 1991 Halloween Blizzard! I remember that, that was really big!

Hmmm, I really don’t hate anyone. Dislike maybe, but hate? Maybe the Yankees, in general, but no one specific. AJ had his moments. There was the nose thumbing mock that he did one game. At one time maybe A-Rod, but man, he’s become a really decent commentator. Eh, too much lately going around to think about who I hate, even in terms of loving to hate. I miss baseball.

Where’s my laugh emoji?

Oh, for sure, then they should say that, imo. And yes, I hope this is only a 2020 thing, but since they've talked about realignment in the recent past, they could be using 2020 as a way to ... shuffle it ... as they've talked about doing. I hate subterfuge! And has the question even been answered about the DH? I suppose home field calls it, but if this is the wave of the future hitting us now, that question is going to need to be answered sooner rather than later. But I'm still going to try and figure out the mileage for each division to see if it was truly done 'fairly'. I'm sure someone actually did do this, but I want to see for myself. What else have I got to do? No work now until September. But the way it just appears now, the East looks to have the easiest travel, and no way around that really, considering the cluster of teams in that area ... Philly, NY, Boston, DC. Still ... Pittsburgh will still be team to have to travel the most in either division, Atlanta a lot more in the central than the east, the rest of the central more to get to Atlanta, which is further (farther?) away than Pittsburgh to most of them, and if the East has to go to Florida anyway, it's should be easy enough to schedule teams to make that loop mostly at once, like they do when we travel to the west coast in a regular season.

MOD WARNING: Matt has now cleared up what he meant ... could Bauer's off field activities be a detriment to clubhouse chemistry? That's it. That's the point of discussion. The debate isn't over the specifics of those activities and Matt didn't mention those specifics in the original article, I suspect, of the potential of turning this discussion to where it went. If you think those activities won't matter and how he pitches is all that does? Then fine, stick to that. If you think it does matter? Then fine, state that he wouldn't be a good fit in the clubhouse and why the clubhouse demeanor is important to the outcome of the performance on field. People went down this political discussion hole where it is not pertinent to this baseball discussion. Go to twitter if you want to argue over those specifics. My opinion on going to twitter is 'no thank you,' but to each his/her own. Stick to the baseball here on TD. Don't dredge up the specifics of a tangent and make them the topic. Some posts have been hidden or edited in the process of getting things back on track. If this line continues, warning points will be issued.

Why would Atlanta be in the Central and not Pittsburgh? If they do this, that’s dumb, imo. If they are going to combine the two league’s divisions then Pittsburgh should stay in the Central and Atlanta in the East.

Where were these possible divisions announced? But I’m good with any article that replays the Kepler home runs off Bauer. Good times.