Just to smooth the savage beast in you, I did play, I coached youth ball for years, managed adult men's teams, umpired, and served on local baseball associations. To further address your concerns, I do sit in the bleachers, I don't tend to jump up and down and clap just because the home team catches a ground ball cleanly, and I never ever sing! It's not fair to the people around me. To address someone else concern, I should have been more definitive! Mentoring is not crap, TH mentoring is. A mentor does not take a kid to the park, and complain when the kid gets to go down the slide and he can't because he's too old! A mentor takes a kid to the park, and relishes in the child's joy and learning experience. That is mentoring. I tend to believe Toriis mentoring is spelled "posturing"!