Guess it depends on how liberal you are with the "Ace" definition. Bumgarner was a 4 WAR pitcher last year (his best year), which wasn't even top 10 in the NL. If he was an ace, so was Hughes. The 2013 Red Sox had a great half season from Clay Bucholtz but Lester and Lackey were nothing special. The 2011 Cards had 4 starters make 30+ starts, Carpenter was the best (11-9, 3.45 era, 237ip, 108 ERA+, 3.5 WAR, 7.2 k/9). etc, etc Ryan is right, we need a bunch of solid starters. It's good that Ryan isn't pursuing some false statement that sounds like it should be right and is instead focusing on what is actually needed.