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  1. IndianaTwin
    Remember that a player can only be used once. Cody has already used Carew, Puckett and Mauer elsewhere, so unless you think they fit better here than as Inner Circle or Immortal players, they aren't eligible here.
  2. IndianaTwin
    Yep. Particularly when Mantle is who TSN used as the prototype.
  3. IndianaTwin
    I think it's a fun exercise. Before commenting, I needed to take my own shot, using the Twins 28 greatest players (as TSN seems to have done with the 140) and then fit them into the categories. That takes some shifting around. For example, my first inclination was to list Oliva as an Immortal, but I needed someone for the "What-If" room. I could fit someone else into Immortal better than I could into What-If. I first slotted my other What-If into another category as well. There are also some guys who seem like the best fits for a category, but they didn't make the top 28 (I used bWAR). For example, Wynegar seemed like an obvious Prodigy, but he's a few WAR short of the leaders. I'll wait until Cody reveals his full list before sharing mine.
  4. IndianaTwin
    For what it's worth, the TSN definition, which is what I assume the author is also using, has "inner circle" for the "greatest players who ever lived" and uses Willie Mays as its prototype. Their "immortal" is for "shattering barriers" and "inspiring millions," so they use Jackie Robinson.
  5. IndianaTwin
    From the OP: "The first and biggest decision the Twins will have to make is whether to offer Jeffers the qualifying offer. The qualifying offer is expected to be worth roughly $24 million this offseason,..." It's been announced at $23.15 million.
  6. IndianaTwin
    Yeah, when I read the TSN article and saw their different "rooms," I immediately started to imagine I would place in each. The variety of profiles was interesting. After looking at the TSN site, however, I do fear some tension arising in the IT household. It looks like all TSN issues are now archived and available for free! Last night I hopped back to a few issues from the mid-1970s when I was a kid. I fear getting lost in these to the point of never getting to anything on the To-Do list. Mrs. IT is a saint in dealing with my baseball obsessions, but this has the potential of pushing her patience to the limit.
  7. IndianaTwin
    Agreed that it would be helpful for the purpose of this exercise to put these guys in the locks category as appropriate. Clarification on the second sentence — though the 60-day clock doesn’t start until Opening Day, for purposes of roster management, they can be put on the 60-day IL when pitchers and catchers report.
  8. IndianaTwin
    Not to mention that if he is indeed out until mid season, he can be put on the 60-day IL at the beginning of spring training. If a lockout lasts most of the winter and a lot of the offseason moves coincide with spring training, Banda’s presence wouldn’t preclude roster activity at that point. To mention that if you combine these and assume the lockout will go until at near the beginning of
  9. IndianaTwin
    Why would a team that finished 32 games below .500 and 35 games out of first be interested in a player with one year of control? That’s a team likely more interested in trading any Joe Ryans they have TO the Twins in exchange for prospects.
  10. IndianaTwin
    Yeah, I don't know if I'd necessarily vote for all of them, but I wouldn't be offended by any of them being selected.
  11. IndianaTwin
    I'd also disagree with the part of the subhead that says 2026 "wasn't an encouraging season." He had 0.6 bWAR in 29.2 innings, compared to Prielipp's 0.4 in 125.2 innings. He gave up two earned runs in his first 14.1 innings. He closed the season with one earned run in 16 innings in St. Paul. He struck out 10.3 batters per 9 innings on a team that averaged 8.6. He walked a few too many batters and spent more time on the IL than we'd hope for, but I can count on a closed fist the number of other 23-year-olds the Twins had that pitched almost 30 innings in the majors this year. I can count on one finger the number of other 23-year-olds who've done it since the pandemic year (SWR in 2024). I think there's plenty to be encouraged about, even despite the hiccups. I'd echo the thoughts above that if the Twins keep their starters and they enter spring training in pretty good health, it might be best to use him to deepen the bullpen for a year. If they trade some starters or face ill health, keep him stretched out in St. Paul.
  12. IndianaTwin
    Walking uphill both ways, barefoot and through snow, I presume?
  13. IndianaTwin
    The next time the "Contemporary Players (1980-present)" cycle rolls around is in 2028. From the 2025 ballot, Kent was elected and Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield and Valenzuela received less than five votes, so they are not eligible to be part of the 2028 ballot. That leaves Delgado, Mattingly and Murphy as the three eligible to return. Note that none are pitchers. I like the JAWS method as a way of balancing career and peak numbers. It averages a person's total bWAR and the bWAR for their seven best years. For context, in that method, Santana is behind Schilling, Reuschel, Brown, Cone, Saberhagen, Stieb, Appier and Finley, though not substantially behind the last five. There's a bit of a gap between Brown and Cone. (Also, Reuschel straddled 1980, so I'm not sure if he's "Contemporary" or "Classic.") After the HOF oversight committee identifies the eight guys on the ballot, there are only 16 voters. They get together and talk before voting, so it's much more susceptible to individual persuasion. Who makes up the voting pool can make a significant difference on who gets chosen. I was glad to see Oliva and Kaat get picked in 2022, for example, but I suspect it didn't hurt their chances that Carew was one of the voters. It probably wouldn't hurt Santana's chances if Mauer was invited to be a voter, and I suspect Saberhagen would be benefited by having Brett. I'm not saying that's nefarious, it's just human nature to speak positively (or negatively 😀) of those you know well.
  14. IndianaTwin
    Over, particularly if you consider "should they trade Joe Ryan" articles as "payroll related."
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    Yes.
  16. IndianaTwin
    Thanks, Peter. This is a really helpful chart and I join the others who like how you’ve laid it out. It does show graphically how just looking at payroll doesn’t always show a clear picture of how aggressive they’ve been in the offseason. As noted, the expected arbitration raises already create a boost in payroll. If they would spend $20M on free agents, people would describe it as an increase. To compare apples and apples, say they are one-year contracts. Next year, because so many contracts fall off the books, they could spend twice as much on free agents — $40 million — and people would yell and scream about the decrease.
  17. IndianaTwin
    I should have put the “can” in “can be competitive” in italics to emphasize that it’s a viable option. I think you have the right questions in terms of asking whether it’s the best option.
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    I'd say the same on Larnach as I did on Bell last spring. The Twins can be competitive if Larnach has a similar season and is batting 7th. If he has a similar season and is batting cleanup, it will be hard to be competitive. In a normal offseason, I'd be open/inclined to keeping him or to working at a sign and trade. With the likely accelerated nature of this offseason, if knowing his status earlier allows them to be $6-7M more aggressive in signing a free agent bat who CAN bat cleanup (including Jeffers), I'm more inclined to the non-tender.
  19. IndianaTwin
    Further, I’m skeptical that a salary floor of $170M would go into effect in 2027. A decent number of free agents will have been signed before the lockout. There realistically aren’t going to be enough guys left to get all teams above that mark in the few weeks that might be left before the season starts. IF a floor is established, it seems much more likely to be phased in over a couple years.
  20. IndianaTwin
    Does Peralta provide a reference point? Last offseason the Brewers traded an $8M Peralta with one year of control for Brandon Sproat, who was well-regarded and who turned in a relatively underwhelming 22 starts as a 26-year-old rookie, and Jett Williams, also well-regarded at the time but who has fallen to a No. 10 ranking in the Brewers system. Then in July, the Mets traded an underwhelming Peralta for guys who are now ranked 10, 15 and 16 in the Mets system. If the systems were parallel, that would be like trading for Carson Tinney, Brandon Winokur and Charlee Soto. So how much less did the Mets get for him for two months compared to what they gave up, ostensibly for a full season, in the offseason? Recognize that they could have gotten more for him in July if he hadn’t stunk for four months. I’m not an expert on Mets and Brewers prospects, but it doesn’t seem like he fell thaaaaat far in value from the offseason to July. Aside from the fact that moving him would save me from approximately 94 “trade Joe Ryan” articles on TD, I’d rather roll the dice, improve the team elsewhere and strive to compete.
  21. IndianaTwin
    Thanks. That’s helpful. It being a short list makes it easier to retain people.
  22. IndianaTwin
    Good point. It may not. But I assume teams need to act like it will and the deadline to add is before the December 1 lockout date.
  23. IndianaTwin
    I said “bring them back,” I didn’t say “bring them back in the same position.” I’d liken it to the comment I made on the Josh Bell signing. I said the Twins could be competitive if he was successful and batted seventh, but not if he was successful and batted cleanup. Batting seventh would have required Lewis and Wallner, for example, to have hit well enough to slide him down the lineup. Similarly, I’d say the Twins are probably not going to be successful if Tommy Nance starts the year in one of the highest-level roles. But if Banda starts the season as the No. 6 guy in the pen, that could be a pretty good pen. Similarly with some of the hitters. They are likely not going to be successful starting the season with Lewis playing 1b and batting fifth, for example, but given that Lee serves as a backup shortstop, Lewis as a utility option because they upgraded at 1b and 2b is a different story.
  24. IndianaTwin
    They do count as service time, so he didn’t get penalized in terms of arbitration eligibility, future pension, etc. However, and I just found this out from Dr. Google, days on the IL are excluded from service days for ROY eligibility. A player loses eligibility after 45 days on the ACTIVE roster.
  25. IndianaTwin
    I’m generally with those in favor or re-signing all of them at these prices. But in my mind, the issue that’s bigger than salaries is roster spots. Can they afford to tie up 10 roster spots? So while it’s cool to discuss these, let’s first hash out who needs to be added to the 40-man to avoid the Rule 5 draft. Who are the guys for whom decisions must be made? Also before this is the deadline for a Qualifying Offer. I give it to Jeffers, though I think he declines it, which frees up a spot. (But to add, I’ve hopefully already re-signed Jeffers at 4/$80M, with plans for him to move to 1B/DH as Lackey, et al., bring their talent to Target Field. That adds him back to the 40-man.)
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