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  1. I'm not disputing that it is fully guaranteed, nor am I asking for soliloquys which repeat what I clearly already am aware of. The question is does anyone have the full text of the rule to confirm which team is on the hook for multiple years in these situations?
  2. This very scenario came up, where a powerful team dropped a player with multiple years left, another team picked the player up and paid the minimum for several years. I believe the rule was changed so that the team that cuts someone is only on the hook for the 1st year. So if Hughes is dropped this year, and someone does not pick him up until next year, the Twins would owe this year + next year, but not the 3rd year. Etc.
  3. I am aware of this, but I believe this is only for the 1st year that another team picks him up. Can anyone confirm?
  4. It's impossible to separate "family history" from "Terry Ryan history" so we don't know if this is true.
  5. In this case it's more about who is on the 25, since that's where Hughes is and will stay unless cut.
  6. Jim pays the salary regardless of what happens. It's a non factor in the decision.
  7. As I said previously, I believe that only counts for this year. After that, the new team would need to pick up his salary. Thus, no one will pick him up. I could be incorrect about that, but I believe there was a rule change in this regard many years ago so that the team that DFAs is only on the hook for one year for the full salary if another team picks up the player. Regardless of any of that, I established earlier that my opinion is his salary doesn't matter. It's the same regardless of what happens. The only thing the Twins should consider if player value.
  8. The Twins can DFA him now and still invite him to spring training next year. He'll be around. I believe DFA rules would mean the Twins would have to cover (most of) the salary this year if someone picks him up, but not in additional years. This means no one will pick him up. 2017 can be the year that teams jettison terrible players. Boston cut Sandoval with $50M left on the deal. Hughes and Sandoval are roughly equally bad, the difference being that Sandoval was incredible in the playoffs.
  9. We would all be surprised if he is cut. This doesn't mean not cutting him is the right answer. You say they have "Little to lose" by keeping him. If we are going to use utilitarian value judgments to make the decision, they have little to gain by keeping him. The $ spent is the same if he goes or stays, so that's not a factor. The only factor is on-field performance. If it's a "long recovery" and he won't pitch well again for another 12 months, that's nearly half of his remaining contract. Cut him.
  10. Hughes's fastball is under 90 and his other pitches yield a .380 BAA. He has been pitching in the majors for 10 years and his arm is dead. The $30M left to spend on him is lost whether he pitches for the team or not. If the Twins cut Hughes and lose his negative WAR and sign a rookie with a zero war, they are spending essentially the same amount and improving the team WAR. Do it.
  11. Then why didn't they pick up any other 8.00 ERA pitchers?
  12. I don't agree 100% with your finer details, but this is a good strategy for the Twins to build off of.
  13. He had an ouchie.
  14. Gee will be called up. He is stretched out now with a 0.00 ERA, and he can opt out of the contract tomorrow if he wants. Someone else would pick him up, so he only stays in the minors for the Twins longer with a very shiny promise from the Twins. With the Twins pitching situation being what it is, the Twins would be fools to play it that way and keep him down any longer. Colon will also be with the team, though probably not quite so quickly. Those are the two internal options who have a realistic chance of making a difference. The difference Colon would make at this point might be more as a mentor -- and I don't want to diminish that value as his presence can only help the team.
  15. This team deserves its props for being where they are and with the pitching situation as it is. Most team would have thrown in the towel with the pitching. The front office is on the record as wanting to build for the future and not for this year. That's the right decision, there is too much left to build to start gutting the prospect pool. But I will say it again, it's a head scratcher that the team did not address this at all during the offseason. Building a team is a constant process and the Twins are still lacking 3/4 of a pitching staff....
  16. Glasses for viewing are cheap on Amazon, stock up. I will spend the weekend in St. Louis and trek south a bit to see the whole thing.
  17. Rangers have under-performed so far. Likely they stick with who they have and see what happens. They have a shot at the wild card.
  18. The 84 Twins had good pitching, mostly, but were not yet a good hitting team. It makes sense that they tried to pick up hitters only. One also has to look at this through a contemporary lens. The MLB at this time still had some teams just starting to adopt full-time closers, and the Twins were one of the teams that were late to the party. They really didn't know what they were doing with Davis (or, at least, Billy Gardner didn't). Plus, Griffith was working on selling the team at this time, with the sale being finalized in September, and would not have been focused on trades and may not have been paying attention to what was happening on the field at all. Note that this year's team doesn't have the "We're trying to sell the team" excuse going for them....
  19. 84 is the year that Ron Davis blew 14 saves. Only two people brought that team down -- Ron Davis and manager Billy Gardner. The team was tied for 1st on 9/23 and lost the last 6 games. The team ahead of them lost their last 3. Davis blew 2 saves. credited as losses, during the last 2 games that mattered with 5 walks, 3 hits, and 2 home runs, putting them 3 games out with 2 games remaining.
  20. Who would trade more than that for Gordon? Gordon won't be a contributor until 2018 or 2019.
  21. Should someone who keeps getting better and better be traded, a rising star in the middle infield (the two positions of constant need for every organization)? Nah. In the modern era, pitchers are injury magnets. Don't trade a rising star for a pitcher. Trade an older player or a player whose salary you don't like instead. Looking at you, Dozier. There isn't a pitcher of worthy enough caliber to trade someone like Gordon off that the Twins would not be able to pick up in free agency. If the Twins want pitching prospects, they can trade away different pieces....
  22. Amazing that Buxton provides so much value just as a defender.
  23. This isn't the first time Molitor neglected to put the best defense behind Gibson with the same result. Yes, Gibson sucks and needs to be replaced. Knowing this, Molitor should have the best defense behind him to have a chance to win the game. It's difficult to not conclude one of these things: - Molitor thinks Gibson is better than he is, and doesn't think he needs the best defense behind Gibson if the Twins want a chance to win the game. - Molitor wants Gibson to fail (doubt it). - Molitor wants himself to fail (doubt it). - Molitor doesn't understand the true value of defense (also seems doubtful, but with the mistakes Molitor made over the years around pitching, it's hard to know for sure). I put this last loss on Molitor. If you know a pitcher is bad, you put the best defense you can behind him. Period.
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