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I would trade Ryan and Larnach for Anderson. Them, I would trade Jeffers to NY.

Does this mean you are assuming they won't be competitive in 2028 and 2029? Jeffers and Bell are gone at the end of the season. Larnach and Ryan are gone at the end of 2027. I don't see them trading anyone with control beyond 2027 so this logic suggests they won't be competitive in 2 of the 3 next seasons regardless of what they do at the deadline.

They would not get much. Why sell low unless we really need the roster spot?

I hope they are wrong.

Sorry. I had a faulty equation in my spreadsheet. The $110 is correct. Spotrac has Lapour signing for exactly slot. Bouchard is signed but the amount not made public.

I did a +/- on the top 10 and the bottom 10. They have not signed Tommy LaPour yet. They are 879K under for the top 10 picks without him. His pick value is $733K so they will not have to sign him under slot or maybe for once they use the 5% rule and go over a little. They are over by 245K on 11-20. SIGNED PICK PLAYER AMOUNT VALUE +/- 1 Vahn Lackey 9.500 9.740 -0.240 2 Carson Tinney 1.900 2.330 -0.430 CB Brett Renfrow 1.140 1.140 0.000 3 Ethan Wachsmann 2.250 1.050 1.200 4 Tommy LaPour 0.733 -0.733 5 Steele Murdock 0.507 0.537 -0.030 6 Ethan Lay 0.075 0.407 -0.332 7 Max Bayles 0.275 0.319 -0.044 8 Thomas Burns 0.3 0.253 0.047 9 JT Raab 0.048 0.215 -0.167 10 Kole Klecker 0.05 0.2 -0.150 OVER / UNDER -0.879 11 Aidan Teel 210 0 -60 12 Colby Turner 150 0 0 13 Isaiah Lane 200 0 -50 14 Alec Bouchard 0 0 150 15 Charlie Scholvin 135 0 15 16 Connor Mattison 150 0 0 17 Hideki Prather 150 0 0 18 Colter McAnelly 125 0 25 19 PJ Moutzouridis 125 0 25 20 Michael Barnett 10 0 140 OVER / UNDER 245 TOTAL ALLOCATION -0.634

Yes, the downside of acknowledging a team does not have the talent to truly compete is it takes time to assemble the talent. The downside of the strategy you are advocating is that it bets on a one-year window. Most of our best hitters will be gone at the end of 2027. Jeffers and Bell are gone at the end of this year and Larnach and Caratini will be gone after 2027. That's 4 of our 5 most productive hitters. Our two top SPs (Ryan and Lopez) are also gone after 2027. I guess the question becomes how much talent that will be here for 5-7 years can you acquire in trade for the players that will be gone after 2027. Are the same guys you are saying will take a while to contribute going to be the difference between the 500 team we have this year becoming a contender next year? If not, why would you expect a team with the same players to become a contender?

Glad to see they got Wachsmann signed. None of these signings are updated in the MLB draft tracker. Is there another source?

Fair enough but is trading for a guy that is not playing well the best we can do.

Peralta has not been good. Why would it be nice to have him?

I can't get too excited about any trade because the next 10 games could make a pretty big difference on what makes sense. However, there is no scenario where I would give up a top 5 prospect to "take a shot" with this team.

Skubal was a 9th round pick. Joe Ryan was a 7th round pick. Cam Schlittler was also drafted in the 7th round. Dylan Cease 6th. Cristopher Sánchez was signed for $65K.

Should have just kept Valand.

You have captured the essence of how and why fans differ in opinion. Some prefer to focus on the right now and not worry about the long-term effect. That's true beyond baseball as well. Others are more concerned about the effect over several years as opposed to a given year. We hear baseball executives speak of this balance all the time. I am more concerned with building sustainable success in any given year that we don't have a legit contender. IMO, legitimacy is not defined as a reasonable chance at the last wild card spot. My opinion changes quite a bit if they go 9-5 the remainder of the month. If they go 6-8, I am selling. I would probably play both sides of the fence if they go 8-6 or 7-7. I would acquire at least one good RP. Selling would be a product of the return. Jeffers and Larnach are gone if the trade returns meaningful prospects. I would not sit on any expiring contracts that could return a substantive player in a year when we had a 500 team. Larnach is expendable because of his defensive limitations and viable replacements. Ryan just depends on the return. It would have to be very good.

Winning organizations trade their best players at the deadline and in the off-season when they are not good in that given year. What did St. Louis do this last off-season. The brewers have 13 players on pace to have more than 1.5 WAR. Seven were drafted and six were acquired as prospects. We are neither good nor bad so what do you do? Let's just keep in mind that we would not even have Ryan or Duran had they followed your doctrine. Let's keep in mind that Jeffers would make us a little better in a year when we are mediocre. He could return a player that contributes for 6-7 years.

You have a point but those other leagues did not have anywhere near the revenue disparity that the MLB has today. I just don't see how they make an immediate jump just based on the practical limitations. If the cap is going to come down enough to bring up the floor, several teams would be forced to trade away some notable players.

I think they end up with a 3-4 year transition. It would be an absolute mess to do it in a season or two. It's going to be interesting. If they forced it, that would require a redistribution of expensive talent.

Even if he could get 4, there is no way the twins are going there after drafting Lackey. Wouldn't you agree?

Let's think about your logic here. Should we conclude the Twins are better managed because they had two WS wins 35 years ago? Should we conclude the Twins operating practices are better than the Rays, Guardians, and Brewers because the Twins won the WS 35 years ago? One team in the bottom half of revenue has won the WS in the past 20 years. Should we conclude the model to follow is KC who by the way has the lowest win percentage in the entire league over the past 20 years. The only other teams in the bottom half or revenue to win the WS this century are the White Sox and Marlins. Which organization should we model ourselves after the Royals, White Sox, or Marlins? The "Championship" argument is a snappy comeback that requires us to ignore any probative thought.

IDK, August 1 would be a total of roughly 30 games at AA. That does not seem too likely.

I guess that would be another explanation. They don't believe Tinney is a catcher which I guess would mean they believe in the power enough to make him into a 1B. I am not saying I like it. My preference would have been a SS or CF given the number of picks that went toward pitching. Just looking for possible explanations.

This is a quite different team from the one that started the season. Even the guys that are the same are playing better. Bell, Keaschall, and Lewis are all hitting much better. Caratini has stepped up too. Gomez and Morris are a start in the BP. Sands will be back soon. IDK know about Nance or Go but I think the BP will at least not be the giant liability it was early. They have a decent chance of making the playoffs in a year where the entire AL is quite weak. Tampa is the only team that looks formidable. I am not sure I find that scenario all that appealing but it's a lot better than expected.

I questioned the Tinney pick at first. However, they might be thinking about utilizing Lackey 's athleticism at another position given his bat. They could also be thinking the way to keep him healthy is to play him 1/2 time at catcher and 1/2 time at another position. Tinney playing C/1B could allow them to coexist nicely.

That just far too reasonable. We may have to suspend your posting privileges if you insist on looking at the whole picture before reaching a conclusion.

There are only 3 teams in the Twins generally range of revenue that have outperformed the norm. Give us examples of all the players Milwaukee, Cleveland, and Tampa have overpaid for. I am anxious to see your list.