I have to join the others who were not enamored by Mussina. I cannot put him above Kaat or Tommy John and I would not vote for them. I like the controversy and continual tear letting that keeping Rose, Jackson, Bonds, and Clemens out causes and their exclusion is okay. Piazza would have joined the four that were elected. That would have been my ballot. Good, even a short period of great is not what I want in the hall, but then I would vacuum up a few plaques that are already there. A player like Griffey - next year is easy and that is what I want in the hall. As much as Raines is a sabermetric darling, he was just an all star in his day and not considered an all time great.