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  1. Woof Bronzer
    Well, the Pohlads bought the team in 1984 for $44m. In 2025 they had an offer for $1.5 billion. I'll let you do the math on the average annual increase to the franchise value, and given the Twins "performance" in most of the 90s and 2010s, do your own critical thinking about the correlation between franchise value and winning. Let me know what you learn!
  2. Woof Bronzer
    Derek, is that you?
  3. Woof Bronzer
    Pro sports franchise values don't go down.
  4. Woof Bronzer
    The debt isn't operating debt, it's debt from the Pohlads' other failed businesses that they tried to shelter with the Twins. The value of the franchise has increased an average of $40 million/year since the Pohlads have owned it, totally independent of team success. So the original poster was exactly correct, spending an extra 80 mil over 2 years would have been offset with the added franchise valuation.
  5. Woof Bronzer
    I'm hoping it's more "we'll take the debt off your books but we're charging you a mob boss-like interest rate, and the loan is going to be secured by a small stake in the franchise". These vulture capital firms would seem to have little interest in long term appreciation, they just want fast profits. Because, yeah, if a private equity firm ever becomes majority stakeholder we will yearn for the Pohlad days.
  6. Woof Bronzer
    Great post. This is exactly where I'm at. If the Twins must try to "compete" in 26 (they musn't), then I think our best shot is to maximize the 40 man roster, especially when it comes to pitching. Falvey simply can't be trusted to come out net positive via trades, and we know they won't be adding enough payroll for free agency to matter - which might actually help us avoid Falvey's love for bringing in washed up sluggers to take playing time from young guys who actually have a future. Force him to play some young guys. So yes have starters 6-9 serve in a hybrid role, mix in some younger guys. Don't overpay for the "closer" label. Be a little creative or different. Maybe sign one halfway decent reliever. Basically just cross your fingers and hope you find some magic somehow.
  7. Woof Bronzer
    That is absolutely what private equity does. Slash costs to a bare minimum, squeeze out as much short term profit as possible, and then when they've bled it dry, sell or write off the asset. It's their whole business model.
  8. Woof Bronzer
    I'm sure Falvey's hands are tied to an extent, and he's probably right to think that a full rebuild isn't going to help his job security, but I just can't imagine looking at this roster and the last 2 years and think it's good enough to compete.
  9. Woof Bronzer
    If we call the 2025 core Buxton, Lopez, Ryan, Jeffers, and Lewis?, then... 2023: 2025 core + ace starter, HOF shortstop, 2 all star relievers, Polanco and others = 87 wins 2024: 2025 core + ace starter, HOF shortstop, 2 all star relievers, $30mil payroll cut = 82 wins 2025 pre dealine: 2025 core + HOF shortstop, 2 all star relievers, $0 additional investment = 75 win pace 2025 post deadline; 2025 core, $30 mil payroll cut = 57 win pace What are we missing Mike?
  10. Woof Bronzer
    One of the most curious aspects of current Twins fandom is the continual effort to pretend Kody Clemens is a good player.
  11. Woof Bronzer
    Unfortunately for Outman, the Twins play in MLB, not AAA.
  12. Woof Bronzer
    Sure, I mean if all the players who were bad in 2025 have career years, and all the players who had a good year repeat it, and the team is as healthy as it was in 2025 again, and the young kids come up fully formed and turn into all stars, and the bullpen whisperer creates a strong bullpen without adding to payroll, and the rest of the Central decides not to try like in 2023, sure, this team could get to .500.
  13. Woof Bronzer
    I am amazed at how many Twins fans are operating under the illusion that the "core" of the roster is somehow untouchable and worth preserving. Vegas has this "core" at 72 wins. Is this really what fans want? Holding onto a few above average players for the opportunity to win 72 games? It's mindblowing. The past two offseason the front office looked at the roster and said, this roster is good enough to compete without increased investments. They were disastrously wrong. Twice. And we're suddenly all clamoring for them to do this again? Third time's the charm? What are we doing?
  14. Woof Bronzer
    Sure, building the bullpen would help. How do you do that with at best a minimal payroll increase, and more likely a decrease? Trade bad relievers for better ones? Good luck. Trade hitters for relievers? Now you've got to add more offense without adding payroll.
  15. Woof Bronzer
    They went from around a 75 win team to a 57 win team in 2 months after he "improved" the team. If his plan was to make the 25 team better he failed spectacularly, and quite possibly pulled off the worst trade deadline of any team in the history of the sport. For his sake I hope he was lying!
  16. Woof Bronzer
    "The Chicago White Sox front office believes their roster can compete for the Central next year" still sounds bonkers. And yet the Sox were a few games better than the Twins post-deadline.
  17. Woof Bronzer
    Fair enough although I guess I'd say whatever you "see" is fine, but factually speaking the current roster played at a 57 win clip after the trade deadline. Whether or not that "feels" right, those are the actual results this roster has produced. Results matter. Again, we've been through this before....literally last offseason. Falvey "saw" a roster that was better than the actual performance of the team and decided to "run it back" and hope for better results. But of course, maybe THIS time it'll work...
  18. Woof Bronzer
    Ah yes, noted truth teller Derek Falvey, who claimed that the deadline sell off wasn't a fire sale but an intentional effort to improve the 2025 team. We should definitely take his word salad on everything.
  19. Woof Bronzer
    I don't know if that's encouraging. Help me figure out this equation: 60 win current roster + ??? (with little if any payroll increase, and possible a decrease) = 80-90 win roster needed to "compete" Can you fill in the ??? The Twins FO thought the 24 team was good enough to compete in the Central, so that's how they approached last offseason. It is extremely alarming to hear them consider doing the same thing this offseason and expecting different results. I am extremely discouraged by this reporting. It feels like the FO is as delusional as some of the fan base as to the quality of this roster. It pains me to keep saying it but this is one of the worst rosters in the game. Consider the insanity of this statement: "The Nationals front office believes the team is talented enough to compete in 2026." If they actually said this they would get laughed out of the room. The Twins were 3 games worse than the Nats after the deadline.
  20. Woof Bronzer
    Appreciate it. I don't know that I can get there, but I respect that you can. There is a path, that is very much true. I'm trying to be less cynical these days. But yep, I will not be placing World Series bets on the 26 Twins either!
  21. Woof Bronzer
    I really want to believe this. But logic keeps getting in the way. How does worst team in baseball + a few scrap heap pickups (in the best case scenario)OR a further selloff as is being rumored = "closer than almost everybody thinks"? I just don't understand. I can see a healthier Lopez being worth a few more wins...otherwise what could be different about 26 than in 25? Doesn't this feel like doing the same thing and expecting different results? Help me understand, o wise one!
  22. Woof Bronzer
    There are 2 things you can count on in Minnesota: snow in December, and Fangraphs being extremely wrong about the Twins in their projections.
  23. Woof Bronzer
    Not quite. Early September isn't the offseason. So nope, no false narratives here, only facts.
  24. Woof Bronzer
    Totally agree with this. And that's not to say that I like it, or agree with it, or think this is the best strategy. But the Pohlads are clearly cutting costs whether we like it or not. So if the choices are, "try" to "compete" by signing cheap washed up vets and keeping the kids down in the minors, or commit to a full rebuild and hope in 3-4 years we are actual contenders, I'm taking the latter every day.
  25. Woof Bronzer
    They only got one Top 100,000 prospect for Correa and that didn't stop the Twins from trading him.
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