I'm not disputing that 11+4=15; I'm disputing the idea that swapping Dobnak's and Shoemaker's roles would have flipped the outcome of 4 losses. Looking at the actual losses in Shoemaker starts and Dobnak relief appearances, as I did my previous post, I'm not even convinced that 1 of them would have flipped (and probably no more than 1). Dobnak relief losses: 1. April 1: tie game going into the bottom of the 10th, we were 81% likely to lose this game when Dobnak entered anyway (and he only gave up a single and a groundout to take the loss) 2. April 13: Dobnak actually pitched pretty well, 1 run in 3 IP, but we lost by 2, 4-2 3. April 16: Dobnak pitched poorly, letting 3 runs score in his 2.1 IP plus leaving two baserunners who the next reliever allowed to score too -- but we lost by a whopping 7, 10-3 Even replacing Dobnak with a relief pitcher who retired every batter he faced may not have been enough to flip any of these losses to wins, much less replacing him with Shoemaker. Shoemaker starting losses: 1. April 11: Shoemaker wasn't great (4 runs in 5 IP) but was in line for the win until Colomé turned a 1-run lead into a 2-run deficit in the 9th 2. April 20: bad start, but we were shut out 7-0 in a 7-inning game 3. April 25: 2 runs in 5.1 IP, left trailing only 2-1, but we lost 6-2 4. May 1: terrible start, but we lost 11-3 anyway (with all 3 of our runs coming late) Even giving the pen an additional 2 run cushion may not have been enough to flip game #1, and the rest were likely doomed by our offense apart from whatever Shoemaker did. This isn't to say that Shoemaker has been good, or Dobnak's role has been correct -- just that it's very hard to flip 4 losses in a month from a single marginal move such as this.