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B-Ref has Reyes at 0.4 WAR, but Fangraphs has him at 1.4. (B-Ref uses DRS for defense, which has him at -10 runs this year, while Fangraphs uses UZR which has him essentially average. In a comparable number of games last year, DRS had him as essentially average, and UZR at -4.4, so maybe 2019's -10 is a bit of an outlier?) I'm not sure where you are getting "Sano-like injury concerns" for Reyes? He's big, I guess, but here are his career games played: 2014: 128 games played in 139 team games 2015: 123 / 128 2016: 130 / 140 2017: 135 / 140 2018: 145 / 162 (MLB rookie season) 2019: 99 / 107 If you think he's a risk to pull something while running in the outfield, note that Reyes has already played 740 career pro games in the outfield, the last 160 in MLB. Sano only lasted 39. (And of course, if Reyes gets time at DH, that helps going forward.)
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I think so too, although I'm not sure I'd want to do that trade!
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I think it's fair to guess that if we ate Kennedy's salary, we could get him for a modest prospect return: Royals Reportedly “Not Inclined” To Pay Down Salary In Trades https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/royals-trade-rumors-ian-kennedy-danny-duffy-salary.html
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There have been Diekman, Wood, Phelps, and Martin dealt already... although I guess they're probably close to the Romo class...
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"Zach Duke in Reverse" may be a disappointing trade, but could be a great Elvis Costello song! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptnXM6rsxSY
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To those downgrading Trammell (myself included): Trammell is a 21 year old corner outfielder with 107 wRC+ at AA this season. Kirilloff is a 21 year old corner outfielder / first baseman with a 109 wRC+ at AA this season. Neither one is hitting for power in 2019, and have roughly equal strikeout rates. Kirilloff's advantage is in BABIP, while Trammell's is in walks and stolen bases. Kirilloff obviously was much better in 2018, and we hope this downturn is due to an injury from which he can recover -- but he's up to 287 PA on the season now, including 150 PA (with a 96 wRC+) since his last trip to the DL. If you're not crazy about Trammell, I could see why Kirilloff may not be a real attractive headliner for a blockbuster trade right now either.
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baseballtradevalues.com has the Indians as the winner, and Reds as the loser, but I suspect they have Taylor Trammell overrated. Although that wouldn't really affect the Cleveland side of things, as they neither gave up nor received Trammell. https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/real-life-scorecard-tracking-our-values-against-the-2019-summer-trade-deadline/
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I wouldn't call it a big win for Cleveland, but: Fangraphs projects Puig and Reyes to be worth 1.2 WAR the rest of the season. And they are likely replacing Jake Bauers and Greg Allen, who were projected at 0 or slightly negative WAR the rest of the way (and have combined for -0.7 WAR already this year). On the flip side, Fangraphs projects Trevor Bauer to be worth 1.6 WAR the rest of the season. Even if they replace Bauer with a 0 WAR starter, this could be close to a wash for 2019. 2020 is tougher -- Bauer projects at 3.9 WAR, vs Reyes at 2.4 -- but presumably that is where MLB ready pitching prospects Allen and Moss come into play, plus ~$20 mil salary savings and longer range prospect Nova.
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Actually just once off Johan -- the second HR, in the 9th inning, was off of Crain, and proved to be the decisive run. I was at the game. A weekday noon start at the Metrodome. What a bummer of an afternoon.
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Oh, I agree. I didn't mean to suggest a Buxton trade now would be reasonable. Just that the Mets asking about Buxton wouldn't really be notably more *unreasonable* than if the Twins said Lewis and Kirilloff were both off the table.
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I'm guessing talks were nowhere near actual offers, but I think this is the likely track. If the Twins maintained Lewis and Kirilloff were still untouchable, even for Syndergaard, it seems defensible to inquire about Buxton -- not so much to actually acquire him, but just to figure out what the Twins could possibly be thinking.
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It's been mentioned. How would you feel about it, if the Mets only asked about Buxton *after* the Twins said neither Lewis nor Kirilloff were available, as suggested by previous reports? I agree a trade match is unlikely to be found in that situation, but I wouldn't call the Mets side ridiculous in those circumstances.
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This earlier report suggests the Jays may not have required Lewis or Kirilloff, and/or the Twins reticence extended beyond Lewis and Kirilloff: https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1154889022000340992?s=20
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There wasn't anything confusing about the Lowrie and Familia deals, though. They haven't worked out well, which might be a strike against the Mets evaluators, but the motivations behind the deals were fairly clear and sensible. The off-field stuff was a circus, for sure, but to date it hasn't really affected their transactions.
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That's fine, but I strongly suspect the Buxton inquiry came after the Lewis/Kirilloff question. If you want to re-engage, I suspect the Twins just need a different answer to the Lewis/Kirilloff question, rather than a counter to the Buxton thing.
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The Mets were buyers last offseason, and are still buyers for 2020 and beyond, but have become sellers for 2019 as they have fallen out of the race. Every move they have made is perfectly consistent with that. Buyer/seller doesn't have to be a static, binary thing. Keep in mind they're not "actively shopping" Syndergaard with any kind of urgency -- they are looking for an elite return on him (i.e. Mackenzie Gore, or Lewis/Kirilloff), which again makes sense given their position. Sorry for mentioning the Buxton thing, but a lot of posters seem to be using that as a cue to bash the Mets FO right now.
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Have you considered the possibility that asking about Buxton was perhaps the Mets way of giving the Twins "a dose of our own medicine"? It's still quite possible the Twins were unwilling to commit two top prospects to a Syndergaard package, you know. (Especially given the delayed, Twins-sided reporting of this Buxton thing.)
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What's the problem with what the Mets are doing, aside from the Cano trade? They extended deGrom through 2022-2024; they seem to have made a good deal for Stroman who has 2020 control; they salary dumped the mediocre Vargas; they are shopping Wheeler who is a pending FA; and they have a high asking price for Syndergaard and his 2.5 years of control, and likely Diaz and Lugo with their 3.5 years control, for whom there is no urgency to deal. Is it because they inquired about Buxton, after the Twins quite possibly said neither Lewis or Kirilloff were on the table for Syndergaard? Look, I would have never hired Brodie as my GM, and I glad he is not the GM of my team, but I think some of this "Mets are crazy/bad/crazybad" talk is rather exaggerated, at this point in time.
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No worries. It should have zero effect on Graterol's team control -- he won't burn an option this year unless we call him up and then send him back down for 20+ days, which seems almost impossible this late in the season. And we can easily reclaim any service time by optioning him to begin 2020 (which we'd probably do anyway).
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Agreed. And technically, I think the injury loophole could still be employed to get him on the postseason roster, even after August 31st: https://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3549 "7. An injured post-season eligible player can (with the approval of the MLB Commissioner) be replaced on his club's Post-Season Eligibility List by a player (regardless of position) who was on an Active List, Reserve List, 60-day Injured List, or Military List of a minor league affiliate from that organization prior to midnight (Eastern) on August 31st"
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Most people seem to think the Mets did all right in the Stroman trade, even if the timing was a bit of a surprise. The Vargas salary dump seems fine. The deGrom extension is all right in its early stages. They did poorly in the Cano trade for sure, although that was basically just a massive overpay for a closer.
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