I should have quoted it, but the post I was reacting to was immediately above mine and called Hunter a "Twins legend." I have seen John offer similar statements. I don't particularly care how much you want to credit Torii's leadership for wins and losses in 2015, but I don't think his sole leadership was cited much as an important factor from 2001-2007 (or from 2008-2010 after he originally left), so I think history will ultimately judge him more on his statistical record. I think he was better and/or slightly longer tenured than some of the other notable pieces on those early clubs (Jones, Guzman, Cuddyer, etc.), but I really don't think his pre-2015 Twins contributions rise that far above "good, fun player on a few good, fun (if not particularly playoff successful) teams". By 2015, Torii's complete MLB record was starting to look impressive simply for his solid longevity, which colored his return to Minnesota, but half of his relevant seasons had been accumulated elsewhere.