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  1. I’d be interested to see that. Did you compare them to how all prospects fare in general? And how once-traded prospects fare? I don’t think the success rate of any prospect group would be super-high, but it would be interesting to see if there was a meaningful penalty for being traded / being traded multiple times.
  2. I think the implication is that interest has grown, among mostly the same teams, since the Scherzer sweepstakes officially ended. (Scherzer was mentioned in the first clause of the tweet.)
  3. The Twins final offer to Johan was something like 4 years, $80 million. It wasn't even close to what he got from the Mets. I'm not sure if we can conclude Santana had no interest in being here -- seems just as likely that he knew, like everyone else knew, that the Twins wouldn't pay him nearly as much as other clubs. (That same offseason, Johan had just watched Torii Hunter sign with the Angels for 5/90 after rejecting the Twins offer of 3/45, putting the situation into pretty stark relief.) Also, on reinvesting the money in other players, I believe the 3 players we signed to extensions in the immediate wake of trading Santana were Cuddyer, Nathan, and Morneau. The first two were probably poor allocations of resources, although Cuddyer did turn into the Berrios pick eventually. Morneau was much better, although as it played out, this contract extension basically just bought us his post-concussion years of 2011 and beyond (we already controlled him -- and Mauer -- through 2010).
  4. If Berrios is more affordable, doesn't that also imply he's not quite as difficult to replace as Johan? Not that he's easy to replace or should necessarily be traded, of course. If one was looking for a Twins statistical comp for Berrios, Scott Baker isn't too far off. Berrios is better and more consistent (on a season level) than Baker to be sure, but they are surprisingly close by a number of measures for their Twins careers: # Name ERA- FIP- xFIP- G GS IP RA9-WAR WAR 1 Johan Santana 71 76 73 251 175 1308.2 37.9 31.7 2 Jose Berrios 92 92 97 136 135 781.1 12.9 13.2 3 Scott Baker 96 94 94 163 159 958.0 16.2 15.8 https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=c,117,118,119,7,8,13,212,59&season=2021&month=0&season1=2000&ind=0&team=8&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=6176,14168,755&startdate=2000-01-01&enddate=2021-12-31 Berrios is ~2.5 years younger than when Baker threw his last pitch for the Twins, though, so he has a chance to get better.
  5. And if the trade offers for Pineda are unsatisfactory, I wonder if we could see a deadline day contract extension announcement, like Kurt Suzuki circa 2014?
  6. I love the wording of that tweet, which seems to imply that the interest level has grown on Happ since last night. Although morbid curiosity is a type of interest!
  7. The Padres were right there with the Dodgers on Scherzer and likely want to pivot to another big splash (at least the next big splash) before the deadline.
  8. The Dodgers have flexed their spending power at times, but the primary factor of their success — and their ability to swing trades like this one — seems to be a great farm system.
  9. FWIW, the Dodgers released Chargois in 2019 so he could pursue an opportunity in Japan. Not that he would have been guaranteed to be claimed otherwise, but teams have a gentleman’s agreement not to claim such players on release waivers. (And guys who establish themselves as stars in Japan can negotiate early free agency if they decide to come back to MLB, like Miles Mikolas.) There is still minor league free agency. Players with parts of 7 seasons on a pro roster or injured list (majors or minors) can elect free agency if they are not on a 40-man roster at the end of the season. Still subject to the normal MLB service time rules, arbitration, etc. if/when they are added to a 40-man roster again. And that potential control makes players like Chargois more attractive to new teams. Seattle and other teams would likely have less interest in giving an opportunity to a 30 year old Chargois this year if he was guaranteed MLB free agency at the end of the season. Rather than immediate free agency, guys in his position might derive a greater net benefit from a higher minimum salary, earlier arbitration, etc.
  10. For those unaware, Danny Duffy is currently on the injured list and his return may not be imminent. Acquiring him (for a PTBNL, apparently) likely does not preclude the Dodgers from making additional moves.
  11. I think he just goes by "Escobar" now, according to Nicolas Cage anyway:
  12. Here's an interesting read on MLB domain names from a few years ago (with a Twins twist!): http://grantland.com/features/the-website-mlb-couldnt-buy/ The most recent purchase was $375k in 2015 for rangers.com -- I think even Cleveland could afford that. guardians.com is currently advertised for sale, even if the roller derby guys cling tightly to clevelandguardians.com I wonder if these domains are slightly less valuable now too, if fewer people directly type addresses with more/easier search options available. (They all get redirected to MLB.com subdomains anyway.)
  13. Also, Garlick hits RH and Wade LH. As it was, 2/3 of our opening day starting outfield was left-handed, as was our 4th OF / backup CF, plus our top two near-ready OF/1B prospects.
  14. Two intra-division contenders pull off a trade with each other: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/mariners-trade-kendall-graveman-astros-abraham-toro-joe-smith.html Mariners send top reliever Kendall Graveman and faltered reliever Rafael Montero to the Astros, in exchange for surplus young third baseman Abraham Toro and old struggling reliever Joe Smith. Bonus: the Mariners and Astros play each other tonight, so the players involved just have to switch clubhouses! (Same thing happened when the Twins traded both Doug Mientkiewicz and Rick Aguilera, and coincidentally both times Boston was the other team, visiting the Metrodome.)
  15. Thought we could use a thread here to post and discuss non-Twins deals around the league.
  16. I don't doubt that teams are in Berrios and he would be an upgrade for them -- that could be said for just about any contender, every year! He's a good pitcher. I'm just not sure those NL West teams see him as enough of a "disrupter" in their present circumstances to pay a premium to keep Berrios away from their competitors. They may still pay a lot for him -- he would be the next best SP available after Scherzer -- but I'm not sure they'd pay more than other teams, or if the overall market will bear enough for the Twins to part with him.
  17. Welcome to the site! No one thinks Buxton was a superstar in the first several years of his career -- he was downright terrible at times. But when he's been on the field (admittedly a big qualifier), he's played like one the past 3 years (8.0 bWAR, 6.6 fWAR in 540 PA). And a guy at his age, with that recent performance record -- even accompanied by injuries -- is not going to sign for 3/35 plus team options. It would be great for us if he did, but there's no evidence to suggest that is the market rate for such a player.
  18. FWIW, we're facing a LH starter, so maybe not tonight. Obviously, with hindsight the front office would 100% undo this trade. I certainly didn't mean to imply otherwise! I was just responding to the OP who focused on Wade's performance, and I just meant that if our trade return still held any hope of contributing someday, I don't think we'd be complaining much about the deal right now. Wade was too far down the depth chart to make a big impact on our 2021 season, and I don't know that his hot streak thus far would have changed our long-term outlook either -- we'd probably still be talking about how to flip him for a reliever next offseason, rather than disrupting our future depth chart. But the reliever we got for him last offseason was so bad, and so swiftly shown the door, that it puts the disappointment -- and the FO/coaching culpability -- into stark relief.
  19. I'm not so sure. Both the Padres and the Dodgers are already virtual locks to make the postseason. And Berrios would be unlikely to appear in a wild card game for either. Heck, depending on health, Berrios may only be the #4 starter for the Dodgers in the DS round too -- they are obviously competitive and have a strong rivalry, but how much do the Padres care about preventing that specific Dodgers upgrade? Either the Dodgers or the Padres might prefer their rival to get Berrios instead of Scherzer. And realistically, 5.5 games back right now, the Padres might not mind the Dodgers overtaking the Giants if they think the Giants will be easier to catch/defeat in the wild card race.
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