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Article: A Hall Of Fame Case For Johan Santana
Otto von Ballpark replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
They chased down Detroit in 2006, obviously, but they didn't "have" to. Had they not caught Detroit, the Twins could/would have won the wild card by a decent margin (as Detroit did, and they actually made the World Series that year). That finish was more fun than it was meaningful. Basically just playoff seeding by mid-September. 2009 was the more meaningful September chase of Detroit (and the one that Detroit would regret). -
Yes. Duffey has 2 option years left, the only one he used so far was 2016. (2015 he was optioned too, but for less than 20 days.)
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Partial season platoon splits are a ridiculously small sample size -- it's 55 PA. His K% and BB% are virtually the same from both sides this season. Last year he had a monster 1.262 OPS in 52 PA vs LHP. And he had a 3 run HR and a walk against Derek Holland earlier this very season, on June 20. To the extent that maybe he has "looked" worse against LHP this season, maybe seeing Holland again would help him get back on track in that regard. When the alternative is starting Gimenez, Granite, Adrianza, and Garver (plus Escobar at DH), all in the same lineup, I sure as heck wouldn't want to sit Vargas vs Derek Holland because of small sample platoon splits. Actually the best order almost certainly should have had Vargas and Mauer and 1B/DH (let Mauer DH if you're concerned about rest), and Escobar at 3B -- Adrianza is pretty inexperienced over there too.
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Article: A Hall Of Fame Case For Johan Santana
Otto von Ballpark replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
We actually didn't "have" to chase down Detroit that September. We were basically tied for the wild card spot at the start of the month, and finished up 6 games in that race. An important month for sure, and one that Santana excelled in, but not clear to me that it was more important/impressive than June, when our season was basically on the line and we rescued it, with large help from Santana -- the team was 6-0 in his June starts, with Santana only allowing 6 runs TOTAL that month, versus 3-2 in his September starts, with 4 runs charged to Santana in each of the two losses. (In fairness, he also had a very nice start on August 31st ). -
While I probably would have preferred Mauer to Garver at 1B last night -- why didn't Vargas start? He's no Mauer but he seems like a fair glove at 1B -- he's certainly no novice like Garver -- and he's got pretty even splits for his career. 3 career PA against Holland, with a walk, strikeout, and 3 run HR (talk about three true outcomes!). That would have improved the 1B defense and probably improved the lineup offensively too, given Garver's inexperience. And since we pinch-hit for Garver with Mauer late in the game anyway, starting Vargas instead would have kept Garver on the bench and allowed Mauer to pinch-hit for someone else, possibly even Gimenez if necessary.
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I think the poster was just confused about the timeline. The bad stretch for Rogers was the week before Kintzler was traded, 10 runs allowed in 5 games.
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Article: A Hall Of Fame Case For Johan Santana
Otto von Ballpark replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
But Koufax also pitched in a smaller league with less talent dilution. And also slightly lower strikeout rates? It gets pretty complicated trying to make cross-era comparisons. Best to just compare them relative to their contemporaries (which ERA+ and WAR are doing). -
Actually, I think it is only the second bullpen loss since the trade.
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I read them! That's how I knew who Melville was before yesterday. I personally am not dying to see more of Slegers, but he is 3 years younger than Melville and in his first taste of AAA (Melville is in his 3rd go-around). Melville has also been a minor league free agent after each of the last 3 seasons, and will be again if we remove him from the 40-man. Maybe that will be Slegers fate someday too, but for now I can see how he offers a bit more upside/control (albeit modest).
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Yeah, I think non-elite pitching prospects in general are pretty immune to service time considerations. Just too many other factors in their health and development.
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It's quite possible they were keeping him in AA for non-critical reasons because they didn't expect to be in contention at this late point in the season. The same thing that drove their selling at the deadline, last offseason's bullpen plans, etc. Could have been non-critical refinements, waiting until they could provide Chattanooga with strong reinforcements (i.e. Littell and Thorpe?), sorting through AAA SP options, etc. And while 10 starts vs 3 might not make a huge difference to you, I was responding to a poster who suggested that 3 was too few. And I think if you project a guy as a possible contributor, you should aim for more than 3 by the time you may need him to step in. Especially for non-elite guys. Duffey stepped into the rotation after ~12 AAA starts in 2015. I would guess there would have been more hesitation about making that move if he had only 3 AAA starts at the time (after a solid debut, Duffey's next 3 AAA starts were a little shaky). Berrios was an option that August too, and he finished 2015 with 12 AAA starts. I suspect he would have been considered even less with only 3 AAA starts, although ultimately his innings limit and non-40-man status (and maybe Duffey's success) prevailed in that decision anyway. Hard to tell how a guy is going to respond in just 3 starts.
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Yeah, I wouldn't call them incompetent over it; I don't think Gonsalves is any great savior either. But to be fair, he only has "a few starts at AAA" because of other front office decisions. Not sure if he needed 28 starts at AA. Promote him after 8 starts at AA this year, and he'd have 10 under his belt at AAA already. Not that we'd necessarily count on him this last month, but he could have been an option.
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Article: MIN 5, ARI 0: Berri-0s
Otto von Ballpark replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Tovar and Gladden were apparently runner ups to Cuddyer this year. And Jerry Bell was runner up to MacPhail...- 19 replies
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I am not using "one tiny bit of information" here. I have considered not only Bosher's platoon splits, but also his overall quality (he's a fringe MLBer), the batter's platoon splits (neutral career), the size and composition of the Twins pen, how rested the pen was, the likelihood of a game the next day, etc. Throw in that we had 3 offensive innings left, at home, Salazar was dominating but probably only had 1 inning left, and Andrew Miller was still on the DL which meant their pen wasn't at full strength. And that we already cut Busenitz's appearance somewhat short, so we already invested something in this game. Even if we lost, the outcome of that PA could have had more informational value too -- can a RHP do the job? That seems like a more valuable question to work toward answering than, can Boshers wriggle out of his own jam that I would never trust him to do in a more important game anyway? A lot of factors informed my conclusion that our win probability at that point wasn't worth risking to squeeze one out from Buddy Boshers. Feel free to disagree, but please don't mischaracterize my argument and evidence.
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Not really. It was 21% when Molitor bothered to go for the platoon match up with 2 outs and nobody on. Is that something you do in "low leverage"? Tigers had basically the same ~20% chance of winning at the end of their 8th and start of their 9th down 1 run last Saturday. At that point, you are a "bloop and a blast" from a tie or a win. Note the Tigers used their best reliever to pitch the 9th to preserve that ~20% win probability, clearly not playing it like it was low leverage. Low leverage would be when the Tigers were down 4 earlier in that game, or the Twins were down 5 after the Jackson HR Tuesday, about a 4% chance of winning. You hope for a comeback at that point, but there is not much you can do. Still plenty you can do around 20%, though. If you look around the league, I doubt you will see a lot of strategic priorities changing just because of ~20% win probability. You don't have to go all "elimination game" in your reliever usage, but you sure as heck don't shrug and leave your scuffling LOOGY out to dry vs RHB with a rested pen in reserve.
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Gonsalves has to be added by November anyway, so if they can make room for him now, by moving Santiago to the 60-day DL or outrighting Recker or DFA'ing Boshers or whatever -- there is no real cost to promoting Gonsalves this season. If they have an extra spot, they could certainly add Park back. Worst case, he doesn't show anything and we can outright him off the roster again after the season. I'm not sure if they'll bother, although Grossman being out presents a bit of an opportunity. I agree Turley should get a look, but probably in a pen role at this point. Maybe if we fall further out of the race, he could try starting again.
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It's an interesting strategy, but I'm not sure the marginal gains from Vargas are worth it. Their OPS+ figures are virtually identical this season and for their careers. You'd also lose Vargas from pinch-hitting and deprive Castro of a chance to see the pitcher before his later plate appearances too. Also, if you don't push the rest of the lineup down a spot, Castro might come up in an unusual position, and if you do push the rest of the lineup down a spot, you are potentially losing a PA for a guy like Sano by inserting a new guy at the top. If Vargas is good enough for this to benefit us, he'd be good enough to start at DH or 1B, probably.
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