When the Vikings season ends? Seriously, though, this is an odd place to post this, Brock. The OP of this thread certainly wasn't saying the Twins were not a very good team, just that they were very banged up at the moment and still had some work to do to win the division. Both of those things were undoubtedly true a few days ago (much less so now, thankfully). Beyond that, this language is subjective -- I suspect some fans might reserve the "very" good qualifier for success beyond the regular season, especially after the TR years, which isn't unreasonable and has yet to be tested this year. This just seems like an invitation to sniping about other posters...