I almost agree with you actually. I remember watching the Braves lose all those playoff series back in the 90s and I always thought Glavine was the 3rd best, if not the 4th best pitcher on his own team (when Milwood was on it). In terms of "stuff," I'd put Glavine behind guys like Al Leiter and Kevin Brown even, to say nothing of Johnson, Pedro, Schilling, etc. And the peripheral, strikeout type stats (and even things like opponent OPS and WAR) back that up. Glavine has so much longevity though, that it offsets. When you pitch for 22 years, I don't think you don't have to be the best of the best.