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  1. A good point. There are advantages to being a niche sport as a fan. I’m not MLB would agree though.
  2. No, but if you show me a business that only listens to their diehard fanatics, I will show you a doomed business. I am not shocked diehard fans are dismissive of the issue. I just find them the least credible people to analyze the problem.
  3. I honestly have no clue how you could read that article and still post the first paragraph. It implies you either missed the point of it or deliberately ignored it. I don’t know if radical changes are necessary. In fact, given my experiences with kids, I tend to think the battle is already lost. We just won’t see the results for about 10 years or so barring something revolutionary to change the landscape.
  4. Probably not. Do you think they do?
  5. A few quotes from a retailer CEO: Retailer? Sears.
  6. We basically can't do anything for a month whether we want to or not. Teams just don't like to deal until mid-July. I'm not going to hold my breath though.
  7. The Cubs series was a huge boost and some of those fans were retained last year. But even then, the viewership numbers are only now getting back to where they were in 2004. And that is only a portion of what was viewing the games back in the 1980s. Now, the NBA was also better rated in the 80s, so some of that could have been technology that knocked the numbers down. But the NBA is trending up or maintaining over the last ten years, whereas MLB was in a clear decline until 2016. And as Mike said - it's the casual fans that keep you relevant. I'm an NHL fan but I'll be the first to admit it's a niche sport relative to MLB, NFL, and NBA in part because it almost completely composed of die-hards and far fewer casual fans. I'd prefer baseball not fall into that category.
  8. Even that is a mis leading argument. It’s best to compare apples to apples, which is MLB now to MLB past. In both the case of national viewership and league wide attendance the figures are declining. Now, what happens when 51% of your audience dies in the next 20 years? That’s the heart of the issue and arguments like the one Thrylos is spinning are fallacious and misleading from that central point.
  9. Dozier is only going to become a worse gamble offensively with worse defense the longer we wait to decide. I hope he has one last binge in him so we can trade him. Bring Gordon up this year to get some exposure.
  10. I have taught several hundred children and experienced the tastes, fads, and passions of several thousand children and I can tell you that your grandchildren are like the vast majority of their peers. Baseball is not a love for them. It's not even of much interest to them.
  11. Sure, there also are facts that give credence to his worries. As a baseball fan, I'm happy there is a worried Commish over a complacent one.
  12. According to Nelson the baseball audience was 41% composed of 55+ aged people in 2007, now it's 55%. This compiles the issues well. Even the commissioner admits the problem. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/baseballs-trouble-with-the-youth-curve--and-what-that-means-for-the-game/2015/04/05/2da36dca-d7e8-11e4-8103-fa84725dbf9d_story.html?utm_term=.81a38daf005b
  13. Correct. Revenue numbers are good right now, but that isn't the issue. The issue is that strictly white males, most of whom are over 50 are your paying customers. And those younger are checked out. Any sane business person is going to see huge red flags.
  14. Like the article I'm not sure player marketing matters. Kids don't have any recognition or buy-in with the league. Half the Arizona kids in my classroom didn't even recognize the Diamondback logo. All but five of them didn't even know a single player on the Diamondbacks. and those five only knew Goldschmidt and had no idea what position he played. Last year when they were in the wild card playoff they had no idea playoff game was going on that night all they could talk about was the Cardinals. ESPN has a lot of money in baseball too, but where would you emphasize your time? On the diverse 15-40 market or the 50+, all white dudes? Not sure the answer requires much thought.
  15. They are much different. That's the part you aren't seeing.
  16. My avid kid sports fans could name 50 NFL or NBA teams before they could name 5 MLB teams. Not an exaggeration. ESPN may be hyping those leagues for the much the same reasons I am concerned about baseball. They know where their future bread gets buttered.
  17. Also, if you want some anecdotes about how the 7-15 year old sports fan views baseball versus football or basketball....i could really horrify you. And those anecdotes align with some data about the popularities of the sports relative to each other.
  18. The on-field product is constantly under attack in and out of baseball. The 50 year old white guy who compromises the average baseball fan grew up in a very different sports era. Waiting for a festering problem to become a full blown crisis is about the worst possible idea. I get not wanting to make radical changes. Pretending the long term health of the sport is fine is pretty head-in-the-sand.
  19. Demographic, attendance, and popularity trends indicate that it may be in trouble soon. Yeah, your car is running, but the check engine light is on.
  20. I really think baseball should have bi-monthly double header Saturdays and trim the schedule by nearly two weeks. I also dig the “unalignment” idea.
  21. Part of the problem seems to be that if you ask six different economists, you’ll get six different answers. At least that is my experience so far in trying to improve my knowledge base. Except on one thing: trade wars are bad for all.
  22. Dozier is playing himself into an extension with us! Yay! Wait.....
  23. You should go back and re-read the post you are alluding to. You missed the mark by a mile it seems.
  24. In the article it lists evidence to show that while your stance is true, the "improvement" is still minimal. It's merely less putrid.
  25. We think of catchers or shortstops as weak offensive positions and they carry a 300-400 point advantage on pitchers. Often even more. I don't think the author's points about futility can be overstated. Those stats are ridiculous.
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