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  1. h2oface
    Time. Right, initially I quoted and posted, and agreed with Thyros' take. I still do. And IF it is a one year offer...... like a qualifying offer..... it save's face, and now it is up to Molitor to accept or reject (or to counter and negotiate), and in his hands... his ball park. When there was no word of it on Friday press day, as suggested when those who like to be first (and maybe correct, maybe not) had reported, and quite a bit of time has now passed, it is getting to be quite interesting, eh? It is kind of like buying a house. The offer has been made. If one does anything other than completely accept the offer, and makes one slight change, they have rejected the offer and made the seller an offer, and there is still no contract. And so forth. Perhaps he is contemplating retirement, which was also part of the 4 point Thyros take. Perhaps he is negotiating and there is some countering going on, and he wants more time or money. So we should know this week, one would think. Sooner than never.
  2. h2oface
    I think you know what I was getting at comparing the Twins progression to the Astros...... but if not, I can't help you. We can go ahead and include 2015 and say +15 games in 3 years. Fine. I think much more was expected. I know I did. I know I certainly didn't expect a 103 loss season in 2016. We will continue to disagree on our opinion about keeping Molitor, and we with both live with the eventual result, whatever it is.
  3. h2oface
    Then lets look at it. From 2011 to 2014, the Twins won 63, 66, 66, 70 games. (The Astros, 56, 55, 51, 70). Many on these boards thought that the Twins should have improved to 74-76 wins in 2014. 2014 ended with the Astros and Twins having identical records of 70-92. The Twins were getting better each year, no? Very slowly. Then, in 2015, an improvement that had been in the works (surely, right?) and the Twins new manager inherited that, and improved 13 games to 83-79. Probably unfair to continue to look at the Astros as a comparison from 2015 on. I don't know why, but let's drop that. I still find the 59-103 2016 hard to ignore. And I don't, just as I wasn't ignoring the history of 2011-2014, even if it was not reviewed, again, here. So now it was, again. The point to me is, that Molitor is having difficulty accepting the offer of employment, for whatever reasons. It seems to be his hand to play, and there was a net gain of 2 games from 2015 to 2017. That is history.
  4. h2oface
    Nobody said anything about lowballing Molitor. Unless you consider one year a lowball. The money is probably in line with mediocre managers that took a team from 83 wins to record 103 losses (59 wins) in the span of one year, and then back to just a net 2 game gain over two years at 85 wins. One year is not lowballing. He has not earned anything more (if that), as much as a manager likes to have more than one year. This fascination with the improvement between 2016 and 2017 I find ridiculous. It is like bringing in your closer in the top of the 9th, handing him a 3 run lead, and he gives it up, loads the bases throws meat that results in a grand slam and 1 run behind...... and then he gets the win with a walk off two run homer by the home team in the bottom of the ninth. To me, it is a performance that is hardly something to get excited about.
  5. h2oface
    It is like a qualifying offer, except a hell of a lot cheaper. The plot has already ben executed. Molitor is taking his sweet time. He may not like the 1 year offer. It would seem that if he is thinking about it this long, that there is a good chance he will not accept and then the Twins didn't fire him, they didn't not make him an offer, and they can move on gracefully with the least amount of guff from fans if he makes the decision, and not them.
  6. h2oface
    The perfect scenario.
  7. h2oface
    Well... they did improve all of 2 games in two years. From 83 wins to 85 wins. On pace for another game improvement next year? If 2016 was an aberration, as many want to suggest, and I will say it is for the benefit of the doubt, then the progress has still been very minimal for two years.
  8. h2oface
    Nobody knows except the front office at this point, right? I haven't seen any plan. Have you? Does it matter? I stand of the same opinion. I think Molitor had his three years.
  9. h2oface
    If true, being good news is definitely a matter of opinion.
  10. h2oface
    I'm all for replacing Molitor. The virtually inactive new front office needs to implement their own system as soon as possible, and DO IT! Molitor is not part of that. I don't know or care who it will be, but they have been cleaning house in their way from the bottom up. Molitor got his three years. There was no excuse for last year. That counts. I am excited for the future, and hope the new regime surprises me, and actually starts to do something.
  11. h2oface
    The next batter pops out to Buxton in shallow center. That would have been 3 outs, with the score 3-0. There were 14 additional pitches thrown by Santana after Gregorius actually had struck out (not including the 6 to Marte for the fly out, which should have been out #3, not 2). 14 extra pitches in the 1st inning - 1 To Gregorius, 7 to walk Bird, and 6 to get Hicks to ground out. Santana would have been pitching ahead, and even after the second inning solo homer, the game would have been 3-1. So, I heartily disagree that the Twins chances wouldn't have been much better had the proper call been made. (and that is not entertaining that the Bird walk, and the Hicks strikeout would have been in the 2nd inning, and the 1st out, and Gardner wouldn't even had come to bat in the second to hit the home run..... because that is just ridiculous to consider because there is no reason to think the same chain of events that happened would happen if the space time continuum had been changed by actually correctly calling strike three in Gregorius' at bat)
  12. h2oface
    Not ridiculous enough for the Twins bats to hit more than 2 out and score more than 4 runs.
  13. h2oface
    Sure! But the brain trust was so sure that there would be no need for anything except playing the year out, getting their own manager, purging the minors and scouting, and concentrate on next year. Always next year, and hope there are not mysterious bilateral or unilateral leg injuries, nobody takes a pitch and breaks their hand for the year, nobody runs into a wall, etc etc..... next year. There was literally almost nothing done to this team yet. And even though they got to the wild card game, they are not even close to having a team that can really compete once they get in the playoffs, and no attempt, as of yet, has been done in that direction.
  14. h2oface
    Any wrong call is tragic, in my opinion. And just because it was consistently off on both sides, how does that ever make it better or correct? A perfect pitch by Santana was missed, and drastically changed this game. I, for one, will never be accepting of something that could so easily be improved for the better of the game.
  15. h2oface
    NY idiot. He is from NYC, right (a Staten Island High School)? Maybe he was on the take? Just kidding, but his severe mental mistakes in LA and this Wild Card game are unforgivable in my book. There is one mission..... only.... when running to first base...... and that is to step on the base - hopefully before the ball gets there. Anything can happen, and sometimes does. TOUCH THE DAMN BASE!
  16. h2oface
    Still interested in your take on what the actual criteria is, specifics beyond the generality. I speak for myself, without summoning a group that I haven't polled.
  17. h2oface
    You just needed to be a Giants fan 2010-2014.
  18. h2oface
    It was nice to get to the wild card game. It really was. In the day after, It is ever so clear that this club is so not built for the playoffs. Maybe all the .250 bats with high potential will become that. Surely it will not be banked on. But the pitching, starting and bullpen, is so far away from doing anything except arrive. I hope the Front Office DOES SOMETHING this off season.... and not a Belisle or Colon type. I had lamented on a thread about a week ago that it sure would be nice if Verlander was pitching for us. Somebody replied that he was.... by beating some of the teams we were trying to get distance from for the 2nd wild card. And indeed, he sort of was But a Verlander was nowhere to be found yesterday, and certainly wasn't pitching for us.
  19. h2oface
    prophetic!
  20. h2oface
    What does that even mean? What exactly are the criteria for losing right? Period.
  21. h2oface
    Santana made it astronomically easier for the Yankee bats. Serving it up like Colon. Right in the sweet spots. That surely was visible from all TVs. The umpires call on pitch 5 to Gregorius should have been a strike out. Instead, it became a home run on the next pitch. That didn't help. (the fancy 3D tracking showed it even better. Definitely was a strike, all through the zone. A perfect pitch.)
  22. h2oface
    I watched the whole season of Brockmire again after the game just to calm down.
  23. h2oface
    I have never heard a pitcher blame the time it takes to get a 3 RUN LEAD after the first half of an inning, before they have even thrown a pitch..... I have never heard a pitcher use it as an excuse for not performing. Until Santana.
  24. h2oface
    "Granite did well. In his first at bat, he singled. In his second at bat, he grounded toward first. The first baseman flipped to the pitcher who dropped the ball. The ball went to second baseman Starlin Castro who was backing up the play. Castro tagged Granite who was called out. Had he turned the wrong way? No. He inexplicably did not touch first base. I'd offer some explanation, but as I noted, it was inexplicable. While some may say that it is some sort of sign that Granite 'gave up,' I don't think that's fair. No one was giving up. This was a resilient team and a bunch of gritty players. Granite wasn't giving up, but somehow his footwork got messed up to completely miss the bag. It's something that does happen, but you don't want it to happen in a playoff game, and unfortunately, it ends up being almost a microcosm of the Twins/Yankees situation." Seriously? He also threw to first - where there was no one even there to catch the ball - in LA! The only mission one has running down the first base line...... IS TO TOUCH FIRST BASE! There no explanation for both of these game affecting plays. It is not that he gave up..... it is that his brain just didn't work.... again.
  25. h2oface
    When I saw it live, I started jumping up and down and making a fool of myself. I thought I had seen it go out.!
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