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Everything posted by h2oface
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I always thought if you couldn't do it at first, or second or third base, then you shouldn't be able to do it at home. I would call the old rule closer to football - where the main intention is to lay the hurt on the opposing team and hit them - than baseball. I like that a player can't take out the second baseman or shortstop (or the third baseman who might be there these days) and not even be close to touching second, and I like the new rule at home. A lot. I like the on field call that was made. I think Beckham made a great and lucky throw (that with a bit more luck could have gotten to Sanchez even sooner.) I think the reviewing personel made the mistake interpreting the rule in relation to the play that occured, not the rule is bad.
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You tell people that they have a bad take all the time and that their take is not correct. You are doing it here. That's fine. Maybe you don't think so, but that is how I read it And not necessarily in response to my take, but to others' takes more than mine. "No, you can't expect better than throwing someone out at the plate." - You are not allowed to expect better. - Now you are basically telling people to stop complaining, when they are not complaining, but pointing out nuances that affected the timing of the great throw arriving later than it could have. Basically telling people to not say what they are saying because they are wrong, in your opinion. A player can have a great get and a horrible throw on the same play. If the net net result is a two base error, is it a bad play because the guy saved a double but threw the ball away and it became a two base error and the runner ends up safe at third? (I admire the great get, and shake my head about the horrible judgement to throw a ball that would not have got the runner at first anyway, and the net result.) Or is it both a great play and a bad play in the same total event? It can be both. I bet Beckham would even say he made a lucky throw, as he knows he isn't an outfielder - probably saying to himself as the ball is coming to him "it just had to come to me.....". I thought he is capable and Beckham knows he is capable and that it was a lucky throw. Most like this are, even when it is someone that has a history of great throws. I don't think this was a bad play at all, even with the double clutch to make sure he had the ball in the proper grip to make the great throw. I think it was a bad review. Everyone knows that the throw was made by an infielder who Baldelli ended up having in leftfield and the throw was great. Some pointed out that extra time was added to the play and identified where. Critical observation and thinking is not complaining. That is how even champions get better.
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Maybe for you. But the call was officially overturned. Perhaps it is you that is spewing pointless quibble. Obviously it was viewed differently by those that could make the ruling.
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You realize that critical thinking and exacting observation is not a complaint, right?
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It was not irrelevant. After all, it was overturned. The throw didn't beat him easy.... or by a mile as another posted stated at the beginning of the thread. It did beat him, and he was out for sure. Gotta think that it might not have been overturned if the ball had been there sooner. The home-plate collision rule states that the catcher is not allowed to block the runner’s path to the plate unless he is in possession of the ball or making a “legitimate attempt” to receive a throw. Just that little bit sooner and Sanchez is allowed by rule to be in the runner's path. Then it is upheld. It should have been upheld anyway, but that could have been the kicker.
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start at the beginning for the arguments.... definitely worth it. This goes right to Complaints.
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Absolutely. Double clutched. The game wasn't lost on that poor call. It was lost on Kepler's boneheaded baserunning, not tagging and advancing to third, and then scoring on Gordon's deep grounder. That wouldn't have won the game, but it provided the loss. It should have tied the game.
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This really makes me laugh. Since July 17, Correa has had 5 days off for the All-Star break July 18-22, had Monday July 25, Thursday July 28, today, and tomorrow. That will be 9 of 22 days OFF!! Since the All-Star break, there were the 2 days off and today (for Correa) and tomorrow..... 4 of 17. And he will get another day off on Thursday - that will be 3 days off in 5 days! I hope a 27 year old athlete in his prime that gets to play baseball for work and gets paid $35 million a year for it can stand all the intense activity. We don't need him to be a robot, just a baseball player that wants to play and earn his $35 million,
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Look, I just wait for you to use the "predictive power" you are trying to chastise me about after they've started or ended, even a game later and the next day, or two, if they help you in an isolated instance. I even count on it. Nothing I said was out of line to consider in the least. And thank you for reminding me and all yet again that the statistical odds say "the Jays were likely to lose just like every other team heading into the bottom of the 10th tied." One can never say it too many times.
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My sphincter got to relax today. Grateful for that. Stubbornly bringing in Lopez to throw 17 after 30 less than 24 hours ago when the insurance runs were scored is a real head scratcher. Bit today we celebrate.
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Could Carlos Correa Opt Back in for 2023?
h2oface replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Correa has been a huge disappointment. At the plate and in the field. Worth about 10 million. He isn't a bad player, but not that far above average this year. Time to step it up. Character? Well, without immunity, his character would have certainly been suspended.- 88 replies
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Check out Arraez and Correa's last 7 and 15 games. Cave and Beckham bring a much hotter bat from St.Paul, and Cave is still hot. Arraez and Correa are almost automatic outs right now. I would, as a manager, always figure in the moment as well as reputation.
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I think it is outdated for only the chumps that can't go 5 innings. Or the teams that use an opener (which seems to have had its run already). But for "real" starters, like Verlander and Scherzer and Cole and Kershaw etc..... it means a lot. The pen can blow the lead you hand them, and get "deGromed", but a win for a starter means you handed the pen the lead after at least 5 and that means a lot in my book. It is only outdated for those that dismis the history of baseball. The extra inning rule is for people who grew up and live in their phones and have a 1 second bite attention span that was programmed into them. Before you know it, there will be a 30 second home run derby that settles tie games. Putrid.
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Overdue. Needed to happen earlier, but at least it is done? Sands? Have you seen his stats in AAA? People like to say he has "stuff". It just doesn't fool even the AAA batters much consistently. Or MLB batters in the brief times he has been given the ball in emergencies with the Twins. This was something that should have been done before the trade deadline, though. Maybe even including him in a trade as a forced piece if necessary. Baldelli likes to keep saying, even last night after the game, that Pagan has that great stuff, and he would continue to use Pagan in high leverage situations. I wish "stuff" wasn't as important as results.
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Nearly 4 months waiting on Alcala lost. Seems like such a waste of time that could have been avoided.
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Just don't tell Justin Verlander, fresh back from TJ surgery and still proving it doesn't have to be at 39 1/2
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Another TD article of praise that the team immediately makes look silly. Seems to be the TD jinx, Like clock work.
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Blue Jays 9, Twins 3: Blue Jays Crush Twins
h2oface replied to Theodore Tollefson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Megill was OK until he was asked to pitch in the 2nd inning of the evening, after 14 pitches and the cool down. Duffey came in with runners on first and second, with one out, and gave up 2 inherited runs and 3 of his own with batting practice pitching. Relief was spelled inducing a double play, which he finally did after giving up 3 consecutive hits and a walk. Gray was wild but effective, and had 96 pitches after 5, so this was the night to pull him after 5 and be thankful that Toronto had no runs. Gray left handing the team and pen a 1-0 shutout. Pagan was middle middle, and one crushed with an 0-2 count! Just sad. 20 strikes in 25 pitches. It might help to be a little more deceptive. I keep hearing about hit and miss stuff, but I don't see it happening. Correa and Arraez didn't help with the defense, either. Even Arraez is badly slumping. .220 in his last 15 games, and .194 in his last 7. (.281 in last 30) Correa is .198 in his last 30 games, .207 in his last 15, and .167 in his last 7. Buxton is hot comparatively..... .194 in last 30, .241 in the last 15, and .250 in his last 7. Polanco is .228 in his last 30, .204 in his last 15, and .174 in the last 7. I hope Miranda is OK. That HBP to his wrist was LOUD! -
Blue Jays 9, Twins 3: Blue Jays Crush Twins
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Blue Jays 9, Twins 3: Blue Jays Crush Twins
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I bet the new guys are real pumped about getting traded, now! Correa needs to start earning at least 10 mil of his 35. All that time he spent asking for help and he is not focused and needs to look in the mirror and make it happen himself. 3 hits. This team needs to WAKE UP! Yes. I saw the pitching. Well documented. -
All the pitchers are upgrades to what we had. It's about time. And I welcome them and could care less about the prospects traded. One year of a World Series is worth 20 of just competitive enough to get to the playoffs and lose a record setting 18 straight and counting. I hope that Lopez' one year of being desired after all the years of not keeps him at the high level. I hope that Mahle's expected stats start happening in reality instead of not. Buxton and his now healed hand should be happy that he doesn't have to step into the batter's box against Mahle's control. Fulmer seems to have found his niche, and with injuries behind him, hopefully he continues to get even better. To call it a "great" haul...... well..... OK. Compared to meager past trade deadlines, it is remarkable. And we really needed the pitching and could use more. We have been conditioned to get nothing, or give up some of our favorite players for strangers and prospects that never pan out, so this seems like the cat's meow. Berrios was traded with the same control left that Mahle was traded for, and it was pitched and argued that it was a must to do so by so many to get value. So was Pressly. The Berrios haul has been so not helpful to the Twins, and have not even advanced a level in the minors yet. Does this mean the Mahle is now on the block for this off season? This upcoming 5 games against the Blue Jays and Dodgers should be telling.
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Will Alex Kirilloff Ever Truly Recover?
h2oface replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Don't forget the Tommy John year+ for Kirilloff. Quite a long history of top prospects not being able to stay on the field. https://theathletic.com/3340279/2022/05/31/twins-top-prospects-injuries/ Snakebit again. Alex needs some luck, here. It isn't his heart, but glass comes to mind. -
Tyler Mahle, Game One Starter
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"Although Mahle doesn’t look great on the surface, he is much better than these numbers indicate. ....Target Field is the second best park to pitch in, so Mahle will go from being at a heavy disadvantage to a severe advantage simply by changing home stadiums..... .....Mahle is one of the unluckiest pitchers in the league...... .....Among Twins starters, Mahle has the lowest expected ERA and the lowest expected batting average against (.206).' We will see. Personally, I would rather have a lucky player than consistently unlucky. I alway cringe when you have to sort through the stats available to try to make a case for why someone that is "expected" to be better, but isn't to date, and hasn't been. I would rather see a low ERA and a higher expected ERA, because what actually happens/happened is way more important and real than what one would expect or hope for. I would rather read about what was great and not expected than one is supposedly much better than he actually performed. And if Target Field is the second best park to pitch in, that means that our pitching has been even worse than we think, and our pitchers are worse than we think, because with Target Field, it is expected it should have been much better with the advantage.- 28 replies
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