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  1. Based on the person I was responding to, the Twins management is closest to the situation. knew all of his faults and the player's ceiling, "all-wise" as it were.... that's who is in the best position to know.
  2. Dang it- thanks for the brutal Truth. I wonder if the Twins are even tracking how Park is trending? The Nishi comps from last spring are ringing ever more true.... And similar questions must be raised... 1) How was this guy slugging champion of any league but a town softball team? 2) How can we be certain that the South Korean Baseball League didn't send us a doppelganger? 3) Can it get any lower than the current state... where we as fans feel embarrassed enough for him to the point where sending him to Rochester is equivalent to a mercy killing in order to take him out of his misery?
  3. This.. The guy obviously has limitations. He's definitely a non-intuitive defensive player, but athletic enough to possibly become adequate in RF given some time. And that's why the decision to keep moving him around in the OF between RF and LF,-when he'd practically only played just one position in his entire professional career- was pretty shortsighted on the part of the Twins. (And no, this isn't second-guessing, it was noted by many sources at the time he was moved out of RF to LF by Torii Hunter that Arcia has never felt comfortable in LF).
  4. Whaa...? This makes no sense in response to the topic you replied to, at all.
  5. If this is all so obviously true, then why didn't Terry DFA him or trade him at any point after the completion of the 2014 season- in 2014 when his potential still held highest value- all the way up to Spring Training in 2016? The fact remains... it's still on management that he was occupying a valuable roster spot and wasting away on the bench for 2.5 months.
  6. Blame the education system, not the poster.
  7. "Sorry bullpen lot", indeed. I was going to go with "A sad cast of castoffs...", but hey, whatever. Given the roster configuration leaving the Twins with a plethora of pitchers with remaining options- plus a bountiful bevy of unwanted arms that can be exposed to waivers w/o fear of being claimed- the Twins' 13th pitcher can, and should, virtually ALWAYS be stashed on the Rochester roster.
  8. I suggest that you should have asked the Twins management precisely that question in the offseason, instead.
  9. Devolving into squabbling? The vast chasm of disagreement on how Arcia was handled has been ongoing between the two sides in this debate for at least a month, now. And it is a direct reflection of previous roster conundrums where the Twins FO proved to be more than just a little maladroit in their perception of potential and inexplicable willingness to throw away proven raw talent when alternative roster options are always available. Unfortunately, the shoddy manner in how this event was handled is just the most recent issue to come front and center on whether or not current management should be judged as fit to continue at the helm going forward. Given the current gloomy state of affairs, squabbling and dissent are all too inevitable byproducts.
  10. Said it before, Arcia has had a reverse split advantage all season. And superior BB% and K% numbers batting vs. LHPs, as well.
  11. Use of loaded words like egregious does not an argument make. Echoing "kirbydome" just above.... Did you catch Molitor's interview after the move? Even he admitted that Arcia never received a fair shot before he was cut. To rehash old laundry yet again... All I've questioned is why the Twins didn't just part ways in the offseason if this was their perception and conclusion of his worth to the team? Even when it became obvious early on that the season was lost, Arcia played less, not more. And unlike Sano, Arcia did all that was asked of him in the offseason, to obviously no avail. The Twins once again got nothing for him in the end, plus they have the added insult of wasted development time and a wasted roster spot, better placed with someone or someones they actually think has/have a future with the team.
  12. Based on how Arcia was treated by the Twins all season, I doubt they even bothered to check the Rays box scores.
  13. Miguel De Jesus... is it worth finding out more info on this International Man of Mystery?
  14. Yeah, it was a bonehead mistake, but thus far, it's a fairly isolated event, and can just as easily be chalked up to a rookie mistake, but also one that could happen to anyone, at least once or twice a year, especially in an unfamiliar ballpark. I really think you're taking things a step too far to make it your defining moment for Kepler's supposed limits as a RFer. (Now granted, if he make 2 or 3 more similar major misjudgements of flyball trajectory this summer, I'll happily join you in your assessment, I just haven't seen the type of poor routes that Hicks all too persistently took in his time with the Twins as a rookie).
  15. Yes... both of you...
  16. Yep. One of the Twins' FO primary tragic flaws is feeling the inherent need to build shrines of untouchability and over-generous contract extensionality toward guys with single career years/half seasons interspersed with longer-term track records of mediocrity.
  17. I dunno, Terry proves that you can find your closer in the darndest places:
  18. Let's just say it didn't end well in either instance- (don't forget Doumit). And that's why I think Ryan already has contract extension meetings set up with the agents of Nunez, Abad, and Zuke.
  19. This. I think some of us are still numb to the complete cluster-disaster that this season is. Ryan cleared out the easy pickings in May, it started getting tougher with the ouster of Arcia. It indeed will be a "huge fail" if he is satisfied with the "tweaking" thus far and fails to complete the housecleaning by August 1. (And I'm not hopeful that he can do it satisfactorily).
  20. Yeah... good times, good times.
  21. In a way, yes, I hear you... but when you look at the track record of never selling high, and offering full-time roster gigs to guys who just don't have it anymore (Bartlett, Kubel, Murphy, et al)... Is it? Is it really that hard to understand the abundant quantities of fecklessness? The money owed to Plouffe is really incidental. Ryan can afford it, and he hasn't shown any willingness to deploy freed up funds where the holes are obviously necessary to put to good use. Keeping Plouffe AND signing Park made no economic or roster-optimizing sense in the winter, and it doesn't now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Ryan will now remedy the situation and do the right thing. Remember, this was a team that could have easily given up on Plouffe multiple times over the last 7 years. How can we forget how many chances he was given at multiple positions before finally settling in at 3B- if they've stuck with all this long previously, Ryan's track record is such suggest they might stick with him until Plouffe decides to pursue free agency. Parting ways when he was at peak value should have been done long before now. Moving him now, regardless of value derived is still the most logical thing to do. And yet, unless Ryan somehow gets a very acceptable offer in the next couple of months, I still think there's a good chance he is retained by the Twins in a corner IF/OF role.
  22. Yup... during the period of time where TR was slapping himself on the back, there were many of us that predicted that by the second half of June, Rex was likely to have turned back into Robbie- as I write, he has one hit in his last 20 ABs. Meanwhile, Rosario is on fire in Rochester, seems only a matter of time that Robbie becomes the 4th/5th/Platoon OFer.
  23. Don't look now, but JR Murphy is swinging a hot bat in the month of June: .341/.408/.561/(.969) Pretty sure Murphy's going to get a major look by Terry, soon, and probably through September, and well ahead of either Garver or Turner getting a shot. And since Terry seems enamored with Suzuki, Zuke seems more likely to be extended to 2017 (plus a remote chance that his contract vests). Nunez? If he is the Twins ASG representative, would Ryan have the guts to trade a week or two later? I gotta think Ryan is deciding between sending down/trading Park or trading Plouffe. Since pulling off deadline deals isn't exactly his trademark MO, look perhaps for Park to be sent down, and Plouffe to alter his role to CornerInf/DH, and split time with Sano and Mauer. Escobar? Here's his line since he came off of the DL on May 23- .333/.351/.519/(.870) En Fuego! Hmmm, I wonder if there's a fringe contender or two that might make a solid/acceptable offer, especially if Escobar can stay anywhere close to his current hot streak? Plus, the acquiring team gets two more years of team control. I like the idea of giving Polanco an extended look at SS... But again, Esco seems like another one of those players the Twins seemingly can't live without, so I'm not holding my breath on a trade here, either. Log jam in the MI continues, Polanco languishes even more.
  24. As noted, Cruz's K% was 25% in his first two+ years- better than Arcia, to be sure- but Arcia at 31% - and four years younger on the comp, isn't really that far away from Cruz's 25% for you to draw some definitive distinction. If we were to project their career timeline, just knowing what we know of their first two years in the league, Arcia shows superior power potential, a better BB rate, but more likely to whiff, as any typical power hitter would be expected to perofrm. You seem to be going out of your way to ignore the significantly greater results of Arcia relative to Cruz in this exercise I illustrated... not sure why... ? except, judging previous posting history, up to and including your most recent posts in this thread... it's all on the players... that is, all on them- once the Twins FO decides to part ways...
  25. How can we definitively say we know for certain Arcia's offensive ceiling? By contrast, consider Nelson Cruz. He didn't get called up until age 25. In his first two+ seasons, through to age 27, his numbers were not very impressive: .231/.282/.385/(.666) BB%- 6.3% K%- 25% ISO .154 wRC+ 68 Here's Arcia's line in his first two seasons (ages 21-23): .241/.302/.441/(.743) BB%- 6.9% K%- 31% ISO .201 wRC+ 105 Soo.. Arcia hits the majors 4 years before Cruz does and acquits himself pretty well. Going strictly by the numbers, it certainly appears that your desperate defense of the Twins' FO has blinded you to the significant offensive potential that Arcia still possesses.
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