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  1. 1. He has no real injury history. By this logic, signing any pitcher to a team friendly deal is a "risk" 2. As I pointed out earlier, 34 isn't that old for baseball players, it especially isn't old for relief pitchers. 3. Exactly. If a 40+ year old Joe Nathan can net $20 million in a contract now....how much do you think a still relatively young (32 I think) closer could net a few years down the road? $16 million has a really, really, really, really good chance to look like an absolute steal. Especially considering all the new TV deals revenue, and the extreme inflation that goes on year over year in baseball salaries. If Perkins continues to do what he has done as a RP they absolutely wouldn't be able to get anywhere near that production from 8 mil a year. Bonus: This signals to other players in the org that if you are: 1. Talented 2. Loyal 3. Team player 4.The Twins will reward you before they "need" too. (A good message to the youngsters) Wild card: Perkins has actually only been a RP for 3 years and a closer for 2 years. He has been improving overall during those three years (especially in the k/bb dept) why can't he continue to improve at this point? Additionally, look how much the Braves gave Kimbrel (a guy they had control on for quite some time!)
  2. Hale is nothing special at all, and counting on Garcia is a recipe for disaster (Correia has significantly better numbers and doesn't have the injury issues over recent years) I'm not saying they would give up much for him, but he is clearly an upgrade over their current options for a #5
  3. Over his last 3 years, Correia has averaged 170 IP in the majors, and a 4.37 ERA. While there is nothing that is earth shatterning about those numbers, and his strike outs etc aren't in the least bit sexy, it is very clear he is more than a "fringe" major leaguer. Once opening day rolls around I would LOVE to see someone post all of the pitchers they think are as good or as better than Kevin Correia who just get DFA'ed at that time. Nobody is saying he is going to net some blue chip prospect, but dismissing him as "just a scrap heap arm who can be found on waivers" is no in the least bit accurate.
  4. Worley does nothing for the Braves as they would have 3-4 internal guys who would have just as good of a shot to be effective as Worley for them. The thing that Correia brings is that he is a pretty safe bet to give them innings anywhere between a 4.00-4.30 ERA, which does in fact have a nice amount of value for a contending team with an immediate need.
  5. Relief pitchers (especially those with no history of injury-knocks on wood...twice) age a lot better than other players. Additionally 34 for any player is hardly that old, while it is no longer their "peak" you typically don't see such severe declines in players across the board until 36,37,38,39. For RP the decline is even less and less, Rivera, Nathan, Hawkins, Hoffman, etc are some of the most recent examples of guys who pitched just fine into their late 30's and early 40's. Is there risk? Yeah I guess...but they are basically getting a very good (dare I say elite?) closer locked up on a deal that is pretty close to what they handed Blackburn. Win Win Win Win Win Win Win. As far as the trade chip thing goes: Now they can have another trade chip if one of the closer prospects they have in the minors is legit, just trade that guy away. Or don't, and build a truly elite bullpen from the 7th inning on.
  6. Teams don't front load contracts like that, and it would make no sense for the Twins to do so, it would set a really bad precedent.
  7. Yup! This ends up being such a great deal because the Twins had to foresight to extend him early on a few years ago. If they wouldn't have done that he would have been a year away from FA I believe? Where he easily could have gotten 30+ mil on the open market.
  8. Great move! The Twins announced that they have signed All-Star closer Glen Perkins to a new, four-year contract extension that runs through the 2017 season. MLB.com's Rhett Bollinger tweets the annual breakdown: Perkins will earn $4.025MM in 2014, $4.65MM in 2015, $6.3MM in 2016 and $6.5MM in 2017. The contract contains a club option for the 2018 campaign that is also worth $6.5MM. All told, Perkins is guaranteed $21.475MM, though it's not clear what sort of buyout is attached to the 2018 option, which would increase the guarantee. Perkins' extension overwrites his previous deal -- a three-year, $10.3MM extension signed prior to the 2012 campaign that included a $4.5MM option for 2016. Under his old contract, the Minnesota native and Relativity Baseball client was set to earn $3.75MM this coming season. By restructuring and extending Perkins' contract, the Twins have added an additional two years of team control. Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN reports (via Twitter) that Perkins approached the Twins about working out a new deal and received some trade protection in the extension, essentially signaling to his hometown club that he wants to retire as a Twin.
  9. There is only a 52% chance of that happening.
  10. With Beachy going down, the Braves need another arm. Pretty sure we could unload Correia who would be a nice arm for the Braves and pick up a solid prospect as well.
  11. Is it just me, or has Minnesota teams as a whole been super unlucky with really bad injuries over the years: Liriano, Mauer, Josh Harding, Sano, Peterson etc
  12. The long winded part.
  13. I'm not touting De Aza as some great player, just that he is better than what the Twins likely have ready at this point. He is significantly better than Pressly/Mastro, and Hicks may need some time at this point.
  14. Ok fair enough, I'm just going to start bringing up long winded Mark DeRosa rants in every thread then.
  15. I would consider giving Drew a one year deal, but honestly, I don't see why he wouldn't just take the 3/30 or whatever we would offer instead. Morales...meh. Not worth it for one year IMO. We have some options that can play DH (Willingham, kubel, Pinto, Parmelee) we don't have any real internal SS options.
  16. Gibson and Hicks fell completely on their faces last year in the majors, it would be ludicrous to hand either one a job without earning it in spring training. If they aren't ready at this point, is it recall beneficial to have them "learning in the bigs" hitting .190 and having a 5.60 ERA? The second Hicks/Gibson prove ready for another shot I am pretty positive they will get it. Pinto as mentioned is a SSS guy, and their are still questions on if he can stick defensively, he absolutely should have to earn the job.
  17. Unless you own shares in the Twins you are not a partner. You are a consumer, if you don't like how the owner is running things, then stop going, stop watching. There is no solution any of you are offering other than "The Pohlads should spend more money!" "The Pohlads are cheap" it solves nothing and clutters up the discussion for everyone else trying to talk about baseball. Additionally, in an off-season where the Twins have been the most aggressive in the history of the franchise (and one of the more aggressive teams overall in baseball this off-season) this constant chatting about 52% comes off as nothing more then whining (I would use a different word) for the sake of whining.
  18. I didn't read the Stark article, but I would imagine that the majority of those "catchers" weren't able to transition because they were either: 1. Not good enough offensively to stick at a corner OF/1B position. 2. Broken down. 3. Both Mauer obviously is good enough offensively to stick anywhere and be an asset, I think his production is actually going to improve a bit, and even if it stays flat, a 140-150 OPS+ will play anywhere. While Mauer has had his share of injuries, he is hardly "broken down" he is making the move because of a concern re: concussions, not because his knees are shot or legs aren't working. While he will never be a speed threat it should be noted that Mauer even at catcher didn't hurt the Twins on the base-paths as fangraphs is able to back up and he was certainly able to leg out enough doubles over the years. I think Stark does great work, and I am not dismissing his study, in fact I am a big believer in looking at historical data, though as we have learned over the years, that data helps us predict what will happen with the majority of players (95% of them) its the 1% of them (Mauer) who have played the game who bend the rules.
  19. We have been over this before in re: Pinto. Replacing Mauer is no easy task, to tell the world that Pinto is the man who is taking over for one of the best catchers in the history of the game puts a ton of pressure on the kid to succeed immediately. There are still questions about if Pinto is ready defensively, and though he was nice in the majors last year it was a seriously SSS. As mentioned, if Pinto can prove to be decent defensively and hits at all, he will end up starting the most games at Catcher this year. If he struggles defensively/needs work, then he will still be getting plenty of at bats at DH assuming he is hitting. The fact that the Twins signed a lifetime veteran back up like Suzuki instead of a starter like Salty or traded for a young catcher from the Braves etc, should tell you that it is Pinto's position to win. Sort of like how it was Doziers position to win (2B) last year when the Twins didn't bring in any legit threats to own that position.
  20. No it is dumb to bring up in every freaking thread. This thread is about if the Twins should sign Drew and/or Morales, and it is pretty clear that the Twins have the budget to do so. They have enough to sign both, it literally has nothing to do with this 52% stuff. I would love to hear which top prospects are getting held back in favor of place-holders? Is Arica not getting a shot? Is Hicks not giving a shot to regain the starting position? Does anyone honestly think that Pinto won't be the regular catcher if he hits at all? Is Gibson not being given ops?
  21. Can we please not turn this into yet another discussion of (52% of payroll, so the Twins should be spending xMillion this year?) We get it, every fan of every team wants their team to spend more money, the owners are rich blah blah blah. It doesn't need to take over and dominate every thread. It's even more dumbfounding to bring up, since the Twins were and are clearly willing to take on significantly more salary this off-season (see: Garza and Santana offers) If you want to argue that the Twins should have offered more to either of those players.. thats fine, but stop bringing up this stupid and tired (52% of revenues meme)
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