tony&rodney

Perhaps this gets amended to 16-20 seconds but it should be enforced. Let the umpires enforce this rule. Like everyone has stated, the players already are used to this from their time in the minor leagues. We need enforcement not more rules that are ignored. Pace of play is easily solved if baseball, in fact, wants this. One change that might impact play would be to return to 15 day for injured or concussed players and reduce the number of times a team can shuttle a player back and forth to four each season. Additionally, once a player is sent down that player may not return for 15 days. Currently, there are all types of shenanigans played with injuries. Tampa Bay used 41 pitchers last season. Teams and their managers would need to adjust to how they used their pitching staff and 40 person roster. I believe this would reduce injuries as fewer players would be max effort disposable pitchers.

This is correct. The fatigue does increase the chance of injury often due to a slight variance in form. The max effort also leads to more mistakes the modern pitcher or stubborn pitcher will invariably attempt to power through. At times, I was guilty of this and it never was effective for more than a pitch or two and caused issues.

Good list. Mauer was a star from the start. He was rated highly on every list imaginable. He went on to a HoF career and is ranked by those who publish lists nationally as among the ten best catchers in the history of the game (high of #5, low of #10, consensus #7). Just an aside ... before the draft there were many arguments back and forth concerning the choice of Mauer versus Mark Prior. Good natured jabs in all directions. I ended one with, "Prior will be coaching pitchers while Mauer is still behind the plate building his resume for Cooperstown". Just fun trash talk between players and their coaches and none of us really knew what direction the Twins would go in that draft. These series are always fun to read and I appreciate the time and energy the writers put forth in accumulating the information for each player. Thank you to Cody Christie for this series.

Was there anything in my post that seemed remotely personal? Why does it seem like your response indicates a total disdain for different thoughts due to your apparent hate for the union? I absolutely did not mean to offend in any way. Ironically, the opening line of an article in The Athletic today voices what I have said for some time, "The owners have already won." A look at the math or the big picture might be a good idea for you because your position has assumed that an agreement will include everything the players side initially sought. It might be a better idea to see what the revenues and roster salaries look like for 2022 and through the eventual CBA. I'm betting that there will be little change. If teams anticipate an overall swing of $21 million then you will see a roster budget of somewhere in the $90-110 million range this year for the Twins. The owners win either way and as I have previously stated it seems like both sides have lost their way regarding the health of the game. Cheers.

Many people have suggestions about what strategies the players or owners should have in the negotiations, but we just need to understand that each side has their own agenda. The players are trying to stop the loss of their economic position from the past three CBAs. The owners want to keep their hand where it is currently. The CBT, a misnomer because it is really a soft salary cap, doesn't affect many teams but does hold down acquisitions. Joey Gallo was traded last year with cash to keep the Yankees below the limit. The minor leagues are totally controlled by MLB. It's a monopoly that the PA has no say in whatsoever and MLB would not entertain any interference in that. I might agree that players should ask for a reduction in times a team can send players down to the minors, say three times. I might like a simple salary scale of $1M, $2M, and $3M for players in their first three years but MLB and the PA are focused on separate goals. So, both sides have some positions that seem disingenuous to me. Maybe this is resolved tomorrow. They are less than $5 million per team apart and this is easily accounted for in how each team builds out their roster. I understand that the owners initiated a lockout because they would not chance a strike later in the season but now they need to step forward, because they win in any event.

I'm not sure about others but speaking just for myself, there is no hatred. The example of the car is actually fair. The owners are faced with an increased expenditure of near $5 million per team. This, of course, could easily be absorbed into the budget because there is not any minimum for team salary. The Twins, for example, could easily field a team with a budget of $90-110 million this year. While I might have prepared a different set of requests for the players than the PA, the power play by the owners is unnecessary because they win no matter the outcome of a new CBA. The lockout (various people have incorrectly called it a strike or walkout) should have been resolved already and maybe it will be tomorrow. The effect on fans is a net negative towards baseball for the most part. The comments that refer to research that shows baseball losing out among younger people is not necessarily a good preview for future growth of the game. Both sides seem adrift on growing the game, but the onus for the current situation does lie with the owners because they precipitated a lockout.

Willie Banks is a name to cause caution regarding pitching prospects. I remember him well.

Jax does seem like a good bet to be on the staff. Does Jax make Duffey expendable and available to trade? Walls?

I am as excited as anyone to eventually see some of the Twins young prospects. The Twins have an average or slightly below average farm system with no pitchers currently projected by scouts or analysts to be frontline starters. This is according to pretty much every single system that rates the prospects. Of course, we don't have to agree. I, for one, am not ready to have the Twins lose 100+ games per year and replicate the Baltimore experience. In this post a few players were forwarded as possibly gaining an advantage because they are in camp while others are locked out. The lockout hurts Winder but helps Canterino. I have never been a big fan of Smeltzer but he gains an advantage over Thorpe and others because he is in camp. I can also see Martin being an option as our left fielder. However, JD and other experienced players remain the foundation of the Twins team and mixing in prospects as they are ready is the best option for competitiveness.

Good call on these players. It seems like Smeltzer could benefit the most in the early season, providing there is something happening by May. He will have his routines down by April and could be pretty tuned in for St. Paul. Those on the 40 person roster will face a period where they need to ramp up. The pitchers are already three weeks behind and despite some who view Spring Training as a little pointless, the time from mid February to the end of March is critical for developing a feel for pitches against hitters and gaining some stamina. Smeltzer gets an improved opportunity in the current situation.

On 3/5/2022 at 6:56 AM, Major League Ready said: You know baseball but when baseball people think they are business analysts or understand economic analysis we get this type of exceptionally poor conclusions, especially when considerable bias is at hand. The owners are just playing a power game. They win in any iteration of a final CBA. The PA position would add $5-6 million per team and they have retreated from their ask since that was broken down by the folks at Fangraphs. You haven't added a single cogent thought in any of your posts to date or contributed positively to any conversations, except to suggest repeatedly that the owners are the guardian angels of the future of baseball. Of course, you are entitled to your own ideas. I think everyone understands your position.

Mays - 7024 PO in CF. Griffey - 537 PO in CF.

The player's association has had difficulty building a simple straight-forward agenda that both benefits their members and has positive gains for the game, at least in the sense that they are the clear carriers for baseball in the contract morass. The building of a platform, however, is very complex. There should be some attention towards the salaries of milb despite their players not being actually in the union. I would think a floor of some type would be advisable as well, which brings on a salary cap. I'll leave the particulars to the PA, but wanted to, at the very least, acknowledge that it takes two sides to create a dispute. However. This is a heavy word here. MLB has been fighting to put the toothpaste back ever since free agency and despite record gains in profit and valuations, neither of which I hold against the owners, there are constant egregious actions by the owners that are really impossible to defend. This did start with the granting of free agency and it was severely exasperated by several rounds of collusion where the owners paid hefty legal settlements, not to mention those times where absolute proof was less ably connected. The blatant push by baseball to encourage steroids and home runs cannot easily just be thrown off onto the players, although they certainly could and should have avoided the temptation. MLB has played games with veterans much more capable than rookies for small gains in many instances. The nonsense with the baseball itself was ridiculous. Teams cheated to win and the penalties were a farce, the owners and managers still active. Finally, we entered an age with changes which some agree with, Manfredball. I can accept that I will be swept away by the changes that many want to the rules: ghost runners, high school length games, specific circles where fielders stand before each pitch, electronic strike zones and umpires, onsite gambling, etc. Quibble with any and all of these ideas cascading from the halls of Manfred and MLB owners if you will, but the totality of actions emanating from their castles has left a PA that distrusts nary a word nor action from Manfred or his team and some of the owners' ideas may in fact be good for the game. Baseball is in a bad place and it has fallen to the players to find agreements for the last dozen plus years. They know they have a fair deal in life but they also know the economics of the games and are seeking to call a halt to the demise of their positions. How many times do you listen to someone overtly lie and cheat you before the trust you once may have had is weakened? This seems like an underlying doubt with the PA. Yes, the players make fab money. The owners win financially though, no matter what. The players cannot force the teams to sign players. Roster salary will be set according to revenue, etc., etc. and profits will always be protected. This negotiation is a power play, pure and simple. That's sad.

Hilarious. Manfredball needs to go away forever. Ghost runners, high school length games, safety bags, designated spots where a fielder stands, etc. The picture says it all.

Arguments against the work of the union in baseball are just silly. Dave Boswell made as much money painting houses as he did playing baseball. The goals of the PA could be more streamlined and focused. The past two CBA have totally shifted towards the owners. The PA just wants to maintain some balance. Either way, the owners win. Baseball does NOT have typical ownership. Half of the owners inherited their team. MLB is a closed club. No person can just have enough money and buy a team (see Mark Cuban). Baseball still has anti-trust exemption status, which is a real travesty of justice, unless you really believe that MLB is THE American treasure.

Take a look at comparative league averages. 1968 was the height of pitching dominance. Mays also missed time for service duty. Griffey was the face of baseball for his time and energized millions of young people to love baseball, but as great as he was, no comparison to Mays. What number did Griffey wear?

Any player on a MLB 40 person roster can apply to the PA for financial assistance. February and March aid was set at $5,000 per month and it goes to $15,000 per month on April 1. Financially, the players are fine. They will not "cave". This is more than the salaries of AAA players. Hopefully, each side will take a few days and recognize that games are in their mutual interest. Setting a more difficult course would create real problems. While I'm in favor of an 8 team playoff structure myself, there was agreement for a 12 team playoffs. The players could take that back and then there would be a round of retrenchments. Not good. Again, hopefully the two sides look again at their battles and find a compromise.

Let the defensive players line up however they want to for each hitter. In 1968 our kid team shifted against a specific powerful hitter. SS, 2B, and 1B were all on the edge of the outfield grass and a one hop line drive to 1B was a 3-1 putout. Strategy has always been a part of the game. It is more obvious today because it is more frequent due to the employment of people whose job entails crunching numbers. The only thing I can offer as a change is that a batter must keep in the box once the at bat begins, with a quick look to the 3B coach, and that pitcher's need to get the ball back and go to the pitching rubber. By the way, every single player in today's game grew up playing quickly.

I encourage you to go to college, high school, town ball, and organized youth league games plus minor league games when they all start up. MLB is not a place for lesser players. You wouldn't come to me for surgery. I'm very frustrated with the lockout myself though.

This is an interesting take, one that I have been curious about quite a bit in the past month. I loved the report on Julien. I wonder if someone down in Florida can tell us how Palacios looks. He is not on the 40 man roster.

I get what you are saying about lineup construction and agree. For example, perhaps Martin will be a really good corner outfielder despite less than optimal power. The Twins should be focused on using all nine spots in their order to maximize production and maybe using Arraez as a DH instead of Sano will be the best decision. I do think that teams have always tried to do that though. The shifting of players to keep a solid defense in the field while maintaining the most destructive batting order is a constant discussion. Harmon Killebrew, for one, was shifted around to a number of positions because his bat played anywhere but his defense was not gold glove worthy. This has been done for many decades. Yogi Berra is another example. Pete Rose too. I'm just totally confused why you used Mays and CF though as an example. Everyone loved Griffey and Puckett, but there was literally nothing, absolutely nothing that either of them could ever do nearly as well as Willie Mays: hit, run, field, throw, power, talk, or smile. I'm not nostalgic in any fashion but just confused at the example.

Arraez is fine at 3B and can fill in if needed at 2B or DH. The experiment in LF is over; Arraez cannot play in the outfield. I'm hoping Luis wins a few batting championships but there are playing time issues for him with Minnesota as the roster sits today. JD, JP, and Sano are in front of him with Miranda ready. That is 5 players for 3 (possibly 4) positions. Perhaps an injury or trade opens a regular position for Arraez.

Julien sounds like a very promising player. I have not seen him but he looks quite athletic in the clips. Defense is a skill that can be learned. It takes a ton of repetitions, a fair amount of athleticism, and the will to make oneself accomplished with the glove. Koskie is one example. Julien could be a real star if he progresses, particularly if he can reduce the strikeouts.

The post makes some reasonable arguments but omits to examine how exactly the loss of these players harms the Twins. Arraez is a terrific batsman without a position. He cannot play in the outfield and is a most unlikely DH. Do we sit JD, Polanco, or restrict opportunity for Miranda? Cavaco could still step forward but he is behind a host of others. Pitching prospects? Ober, Ryan, Winder, Balazovic, Duran, Sands, and Strotman are mostly ready for MLB action. Then there are others coming soon: Woods Richardson, Canterino, Varland. The Twins could afford to trade one or two easily and the return of an experienced pitcher would be a real benefit for the young pitchers, serving as a stabilizing force in the rotation. Lewis and Martin should be ready pretty soon. Maybe an easier add would be Bassitt or Manaea for Arraez plus a lesser prospect/player. Finally, there is Rodon too and he only costs money. The question of budget is real in that case because that idea goes away with a $110 million budget. Will the Twins win the World Series or the AL Central with two additions to their pitching staff? Unlikely. It is more likely that they lose 100 games for several years if they throw their prospects to the wolves without anybody to hold the line. The Twins need two starting pitchers to go before Winder, Ober, and Ryan.

Just like many, I read these projections and watched Ober and Ryan carefully last year. I have hope. I'm also coming around to the idea of just making a play for either Bassitt or Manaea and signing Rodon as a gamble. Rodon only cost money and the former should be available for Larnach or Arraez. Maybe add Vallimont and Rooker. Do the Twins spend near $120 million for the coming season? That could be a wrench. But, yes, I'm ready to roll with the two added pitchers to complement Winder, Ober, and Ryan. Ryan will be fun to watch. Now, about the CBA.