Riverbrian

Isnt it odd when you find yourself in the position of having to defend something you dont believe. just to try and restore balance, reason, normalcy. ?

I have never researched this... Nor would I so I have no point of reference. However, that has to be one of the strangest stats out there.

I won't argue with your last paragraph. I would have spent the money elsewhere. I will argue your first paragraph. Because if the money could have been spent elsewhere... there is no desperation for Boras to capitalize on. They are not going to pay 11 million for someone they could get for the minimum or on a minor league deal... Nobody is that charming not even Boras. The most likely explanation is the Twins actually wanted Gallo and so did somebody else. Is it more likely that: A. The Twins wanted Gallo and signed him for 11 million when they could have had him for the minimum because Boras is charming and they have no way of vetting information because all the people who are in the room are in on the gag. ? B. The Twins wanted Gallo and signed him for 11 million because another team or teams were also interested. 2nd Paragraph. People take these 280 character or less rumblings, twist the little crumbs of information to build unbelievable narratives. Apparently, the Twins front office is capable of making decisions that almost nobody over the age of 10 would make.

Gallo would have to refuse to report to Spring Training in order for spring training to mean anything to his presence on the 26 man roster. He could show up and hit .000 and he will go north with the team. ?

I won't defend the signing. I'll simply wait the off-season to conclude and then take a look at it all before I decide if I'm happy or not. But... wow... the prices this year are really something.

It certainly wasn't what I expected... and I will also go on record saying that he wasn't my first choice and probably not my 12th choice either. However... you make a good point. Bellinger just got 17.5M. If Bellinger can get 17.5 for what he did two years ago. Gallo at 11M doesn't seem so crazy in comparison. There is player value and there is market value. Market Value has gone through the roof this year.

Now this is what my pre-mature concern would be with this acquisition. What if he is 2022 and 2021 Gallo? If he is... this 11 million was a mistake. Will they double down on that mistake? I don't mind them making the 11 million dollar mistake... all teams make those and those mistakes don't kill you if you step away from it. What kills you is doubling down on the mistake by playing the mistake over and over. Gallo can't keep hurting us if we don't put him in position to hurt us. Make Gallo earn the playing time. They doubled down on the Morrison mistake? I about lost my mind over it. Didn't matter how loud he struggled. He kept getting shoved out there instead of trying anybody else. We don't have to keep turning to Gallo if he is struggling or Kepler for that matter.... or anybody on the 26 man roster. We can make them EARN that playing time. We can make them compete fairly for playing time with Gordon, Larnach, Kirilloff and Garlick. The players will tell you who should play by their actual play. Many think we should just hand the job to Larnach... I'm ok with Larnach getting the job providing that he is performing better than the others. I have no problem with Gallo and his 11 million dollars watching Larnach play if Gallo is going to be Gallo from 2021 and 2022. Just giving someone a job without any competition is a recipe for eventually having Jake Cave in your OF during a pennant chase. If I could make one request of this front office it would be this. Quit shoving these failing players like Morrison and Pagan at us over and over again because the projections suggest they are supposed to be better. It's crappy play that kills you... don't reward it. Based on the dollars... I assume Gallo is going to be on the roster. I'll give him a chance... I won't give him chance after chance after chance. If they eat 11 million... they eat 11 million. Do not double down. I'll reserve judgement.

This stuff drives me crazy. It's one thing to be disappointed in a front office in comparison with their peers. Or the most often used... They didn't do what I wanted them to do... viewpoint. It's another thing to suggest that they would pay 11 million when nobody else is offering anything. Would you pay $100 bucks for milk when it's priced at $5. The accusations that are made lack the important element of real life perspective.

No matter what you pay and who you pay... You pay for depth. If we would have signed Correa for 351 million. The addition of Correa deepens the team. The question is: Is the player you are adding better than the player who comes off the 40 man. I assume Contreras. I believe that Correa is better than Contreras and I know that might be controversial to some. ? Is Gallo better than Contreras? That is really the debate. Or could they have reached a deal with someone else who is better than Contreras of course. As things stand right now. Celestino just got pushed off the 26 man to St. Paul and that's good because he should start in St. Paul. I'll wait for the off-season to conclude to pass judgement.

Could have had Brusdar instead. Just another example of how thin the margins are in player evaluation. Talented people often get it wrong because of how thin it is. It doesnt just happen to the Twins. These type of mistakes are made every year by every team. Some are noisy like this one and some fade away in the distance quietly.

You have told the story of almost every major league franchise. You can change the names as necessary, cut and paste the rest and get every fan base worked up and agreeing with you. The Twins were not the only team who took a shot at an important free agent and came up empty. The Twins are not the only team with a list of them. Sometimes disappointment feels like it is only happening to you. This still just feels like the nature of free agency to me.

I'm not knocking the disciplined approach. We all know that there are financial limitations. However, at the top of the FA pile, it's probably safe to assume, disciplined probably works best after the undisciplined get up from the table and leave.

They didn't get Wheeler, They didn't get Darvish, They Didn't get Correa. They Got Cruz, They Got Donaldson, They Got Correa. Sounds a lot like the nature of free agency to me. At some point, someone puts down the paddle when bidding for that cat statue from Mesopotamia. You are displaying data points that would apply to every team unless you are the Mets who just get everybody they want according to social media.

At least it wasn't that dot.com guy who spilled the Padres offered Judge $400 million all over the place. Still can't get that stain out of the carpet. I'm trying to appeal to that voice of reason in your head. If I fail... I fail. You have a little bit of information. Probably not comprehensive. You are using that little bit of information to support a narrative that the front office is capable of not realizing what people not in the room realize.

You know for sure the Twins never offered $300? Are you talking formal offers? Are you talking about discussions with the agent? Are you talking about how high they were willing to go if necessary? How Many Years? AAV? What was the communication between Boras and Falvey/Lavine or Pohlad? What did the Giants think? Was $350 and 13 years sitting there on the table for months or two hours? Would they have gone higher? Did the Cubs make an offer? What was it? Was it formal? Was it being discussed? What did you know Brock and how did you know? Gleeman? Heyman? Every reasonable person that isn't in the room knew? And the unreasonable people in the room... didn't. Is that reasonable? You have a little bit of information... that might be right. It might not... shall we burn it down now?

I can't imagine any scenario where professionals in a position of such prestige would know they are $70 million away yet still willing to stubbornly hold their breath hoping for a miracle while alternative options flew away. I don't believe that I would ever do that. I have no assumption that you would do that, I don't believe Glunn would do that. Carole would never... however, Ash Might. ? That's a pretty severe case of incompetence that you are leveling against them. Do you really believe that they would torch an off-season on a long shot knowing that they are $70 million shy? I'd assume that deep down you don't. But... I don't know. You seem quite frustrated.

Did you want Correa at the money he got?

I never expected them to sign Correa so I feel no need to be disappointed or upset. Correa was gone in my mind after game 162. I'm in the same place. What's Next.

Cell Phone Rings Falvey: Hey Scott, Have you got some good news. Boras: I do have good news... Just letting you know that the Giants just came in at 13 Years and 350 Big ones. Why don't you get with your people and see if you can top that. Falvey: I'll call you right back. (Hangs Up) Falvey: Call Christian's agent... Tell him we have a deal at 3 and 30.

As fans we tend to look at Free Agency from the standpoint of a team shopping for a SS. It's the opposite. The SS is shopping for a team. What's next... we need offense.

Boras: Hello Giants Organization and Fans. I see you've met the Twins... Now, let me introduce you to a franchise that can actually get you to move from 12 years to 13.

Good Morning... I slept great. What is everyone talking about this morning?

The A's don't have "short term" value. You are removing the leg they stand on. ?

He doesn't sing for Three Doors Down?