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  1. Twins GFP
    I 100% agree with your take on indifference. Without getting into the discussion of the good/bad view of Falvey/Rocco, I do not think making a change at either/both of those positions moves the public perception needle. Less die-hards want to see successful players, cheaper tickets, the ability to find the game on television, positive national recognition.
  2. Twins GFP
    I am gonna jump in here before the comments get turned off for the incoming hate. First - Clickbait title. There is no way to positively spin the announcement today. Second - When your fanbase is destroyed, preaching stability as a good thing boggles the mind. Third - The last 9 months of happenings in the Twins fandom world were only tolerated because the light at the end of the tunnel was new owners. That light has been extinguished. Unless demonstrative actions are taken that show ownership is trying to improve the team/product/media situation, the vitriol will continue to grow exponentially. (changing Falvey/Rocco does qualify as a demonstrative action because any new hire will still be bound by the same limitations of ownership)
  3. Twins GFP
    Yeah this stinks. Considering how horribly the pr through this process has been handled, I am not going to put a lot of stock in any announcements, just wait to see what actions are being taken. My main question: To everyone that says you are now done with the Twins... does that mean we will not see your posts anymore?
  4. Twins GFP
    Yeah, lets burn their service time in a lost season, this makes perfect sense.
  5. Twins GFP
    I don't think this is the time to panic and be all doom and gloom about... well... anything. The only point of the rest of this season is to play out the string and see what the youngers can do. This discussion needs to be tabled until at least next Spring Training when we will know if the Twins are making an attempt to be playoff competitive.
  6. Twins GFP
    The first one through the wall always gets bloody. How was Tampa received when they rolled out the one-inning starter. A main problem I see here is how to price these players? How does a 4 inning "starter" improve salary through arbitration when the entirety of arbitration is based on comparison and history? When they approach FA, how will they be received by the market? Anything that potentially impacts their salary in a negative way will not go over well. The same argument goes for incoming FA SP. How much complaining was there here when the Twins had Sonny Gray and didn't want him to go through the order 3 times because the statistics showed his ineffectiveness 3rd time through? I am not saying this is a bad approach. With the focus on max speed, spin, and effort, it seems like a logical step. However, the secondary consequences need to be thought about as well.
  7. Twins GFP
    Not arguing with your view. The remainder of the offseason should tell the story. If Ryan/Lopez get moved, then I am in complete agreement with you. If not, then we are back to the same discussion about "how many pieces away are they from competing for a playoff spot?"
  8. Twins GFP
    What is the context of your ranking? Is it player based? ? How are you rating the prospects coming back? Is it from similar trades? Is it your gut feeling? Given the variables of the team and the unknowns, other than the Varland move (which feels like you graded based off of emotions) I can't see any move being less than a B or B-. Finances ruled the day. Teams saw that everyone was being moved so they started to lowball all the trade offers. If this started a week ago, the returns may have looked different. The Duran trade only looks worse because of the Miller trade, otherwise everyone would be crowing about it. Correa gets a B in a bubble, but will be an F by next spring when that money is not reinvested back into salary. All of that being said, the common knowledge comment: We will not truly know the success or failure of these trades until 2028-2030.
  9. Twins GFP
    What does the public not know? Trades like this get made, spin is put out by the team to address perception backlash, stories are written about the travesty of the trade, a few days pass and life goes on. Why was the trade made? What are the real reasons Varland was moved? We-as-fans will probably never know.
  10. Twins GFP
    Any statements coming out after the fact are 100% spin. To expect him to come out and say anything negative is naive. Word is trickling out that the Jax and Varland moves were made for culture reasons. Jax even requested a trade after talking to Correa about the team direction. Of course Falvey had a role in this, but no GM wants to destroy a team and rebuild. My "insistence" revolves around the fact that virtually every story, every comment, puts all of the blame of Falvey for the negative fallout. The money aspect of this teardown, the impending sale, and ownerships role in this process is being virtually ignored, while every writer and commenter is taking the opportunity to bash Falvey as much as possible (reference your Derek St. Peter comment as example #1). I would love to see some balance and a tad of objectivity (or at least empirical data) in at least a few articles. I see bashing on the prospect return, yet nothing about how these types of trades have worked out in the past. There is bashing about how the Twins do in prospect development, but no information about how they compare to their contemporaries. Are they better? Worse? Have they done a better job than their predecessors in this regard? How about a little reporting into how involved the Pohlad's were in this process? Nope. Just ride the emotional wave of "Destroy Falvey!"
  11. Twins GFP
    Julien is a prime change-of-scenery candidate. He has the offensive tools to be useful, there are probably a handful of teams that think they could "fix" him. Miranda's situation is worse. Somebody may take a flier on him, but I have a hard time seeing him in the organization in 2026. Martin still has a window, but it is closing extremely fast. The Twins have a glut of prospects that may steamroll him as early as Spring Training 2026.
  12. Twins GFP
    This. We will see the Julien and Miranda types as the clock is ticking and the organization wants to know where they are at, possibly getting them exposure for an off-season move. Do not expect to see any real prospects come up this year.
  13. Twins GFP
    At this exact moment in time, there is truth to this article. However: 1) Chances of Lopez being traded in offseason - 80% 2) Chances of Ryan being traded in offseason - 85% 3) Chances of FA signing with contract value over $5m this offseason - 20% 4) Chances of salary savings being reinvested in team - negative 42% If the team sold tomorrow, and a new owner came in ready to spend this offseason, then the Twins would be more on a 1-2 year rebuild track than a 3-5 year rebuild track. If the team is not sold, Ryan and Lopez get moved, than this team is arguably the second worst team in baseball ahead of the Rockies heading into 2026.
  14. Twins GFP
    His decision is not loyalty to the Pohlads. It is prioritizing family and lifestyle over everything else. He wants to win like everyone else, but not at the expense of his family. He is not the first player to take this route, nor will he be the the last. Kent Hrbek turned down millions (this is 80's millions) from Detroit to stay in Minnesota. I don't understand the point of the article. Buxton has put his body through hell to stay on the field. When healthy, he has been pretty good to great. Are we supposed to be mad at him for staying? Are we supposed to be mad at him for not publicly tearing into ownership? Teams don't fail players, teams fail their fans. Teams have a responsibility to all of the people that watch their games, buy their merchandise, subsidize their stadium builds. That responsibility is to make an effort to win and make the product enjoyable. BTW - Yet another article blaming the FO for the fire sale. I am beginning to think the writers here do not understand how business hierarchy works.
  15. Twins GFP
    Yet another article unloading on the FO. Again: to not hold ownership to a much higher responsibility, both fiscal and decisioning, is not doing justice here. Everyone will eventially get their wish and Falvey will be gone. Barring a sale, whoever comes in next will have the same if not stricter controls on their decisions. Are we going to rail into them as well?
  16. Twins GFP
    How many more articles are we going to see putting all of the deadline weight on the FO when we know ownership pushed them into this process? Feels to me like all the articles are feeding into the "blame the FO" paranoia instead of taking a step back and looking at the situation as a whole. A little balancing might be in order.
  17. Twins GFP
    Sometimes a spade is a spade. The deadline moves weren't as much about returns as dumping contracts. Again, most of this blame falls on ownership. I qustion the Varland move, but don't have enough data to criticize it. The rest were pretty obvious. Every word out of Falvey's mouth right now is damage control. Stop looking for reasons.
  18. Twins GFP
    One of things I love about views like this is the complete disregard for the reality that only one team wins the WS every year and if it isn't the Twins, the organization is a complete failure. This sounds more like a Yankees fan than a Twins fan. There are multiple other posts here discussing how the Twins have been better with Falvey than without, I am not going to rehash that. Arguing about the results of the sell off right now is insane because it could take years to know the results. You can argue about who built the team, that was gutted, but keep in mind other teams found all of the Twins players useful and wanted, not even including the 5-6 coveted players left behind. Stop blaming Falvey for everything and take a look at ownership for once.
  19. Twins GFP
    Positive spin on the opportunites left behind... Too soon?
  20. Twins GFP
    That is a 100% Minnesota view. I can't imagine 95% of the baseball GMs doing this. Didn't we tear down Terry Ryan for being too trusting and loyal, not cutthroat enough to survive in today's game?
  21. Twins GFP
    I am not sure the complete teardown was necessary, but I think what was shocking was the timing. There was no inclination this was coming. Yet another PR disaster
  22. Twins GFP
    Hopefully this brings in new owners sooner than later
  23. Twins GFP
    I understand this comment will instigate a lot of hate, but what does Falvey need to say that will appease everyone? Everyone knows what happened here. Ownership dictated a fire sale. They don't care about the future of the team as they are looking to sell and make the most money possible. Falvey was put in this position, he may even be under orders not to talk about it. Falvey isn't perfect. No one is. Personally, I think he has done more positive than negative for the organization. Whether by his choice or others, I expect he will be gone in the near future. This is a business folks. We-as-fans feel entitled to transparancy and explanations, but that is a fallacy. We are entitled to nothing. This is a very sad time to be a Twins fan. Not because of Rocco or Falvey, but because ownership has systematically destroyed this franchise through a handul of terrible public decisions centered all around saving the last dollar. Its like watching the movie "Major League" happen in real time. For me, the ride is more important than the results. Because if ownerships complete disregard of the fanbase and future of the organization over the last 30 months, this team is 3-5 years away from being competitive again. This not on Falvey, but on ownership. Just try to keep your disagreements civil.
  24. Twins GFP
    If you think Falvey is driving this, you are crazy.
  25. Twins GFP
    Somebody better check on Trueblood, his keyboard might be smoking right now.
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