Battle ur tail off
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Just get him signed. If he reaches the incentives he wants, it means he has a great season for you. If he IS healthy for a full season, I see him as one of the best players in baseball. If not, well, then its more of the same from him. Fantastic for short stretches, and then hurt. In this case, you are paying him the kind of deal you like. 10/11 mill per year.
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Game Score: Cubs 3, Twins 1
Battle ur tail off replied to Thiéres Rabelo's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I was actually at this game last night. My first one of the season. The Twins pitching did alright last night. Player of the game for me, goes to Tyler Duffey. Rocco put him into an "unwinnable" position and he looked fantastic just dominating the three hitters he faced to strike them out. I thought to myself after him getting us out of that jam, "we have to win this one now". But our offense couldn't get anything going. Lots of big stupid swings up there when we need a single or even just a baserunner and popping the ball up. Oh well, great night for a game. -
Can the Pitching Staff Compete in 2022?
Battle ur tail off replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't think there is really any chance without them getting extremely lucky. Lucky meaning 2 guys we haven't seen much from this year come in and be anchors in the rotation with one of them having an all-star type year. It would also likely mean signing or trading for one of the top 1-3 starters on the market, which I don't see them doing. The bullpen will also have to be reworked. Meaning trade for a guy, sign 2 more and have 1 or two from your system fill big holes. To be quite honest, the prudent move might be to have a fire sale. Blow it up with an eye on 3-4 years from now. I HATE that, but I just am not sure how you can truly contend with the severe lack of pitching we have right now.- 67 replies
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Trio Hinting at Twins Pitching Pipeline
Battle ur tail off replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
No, they are supposed to draft and trade for those types of guys. Raw talent is not something that can be coached. It is picked up and brought here by identifying it, then taking a chance and getting it here. Whether that is trading for it, drafting it with your top picks, paying more than the next team to bring them over here from a foreign country. This is where I don't agree with most of you here. I think you need to take some risks on pitching if you ever want the kind of it that equates to real winning.- 40 replies
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Trio Hinting at Twins Pitching Pipeline
Battle ur tail off replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am amazed that writers around this team call this success. What is so successful about developing #4-and 5 starters? News Flash. EVERY TEAM DOES THIS Where are the top arms? Where are the guys with great velocity and hammer breaking stuff? What about someone that throws an unhittable changeup and has exceptional command??? Success in developing pitching is what Cleveland has done. What Chicago has done. Etc etc. Top arms. #1 and 2 types. Bare minimum is what I would call the Twins development of pitching for quite some time. Low risk = low reward and that is what has been done here for many years as it pertains to drafting, trading for or signng FA arms.- 40 replies
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I would low-ball the snot out of Buxton. He has proven he can't stay healthy. Teams won't lineup to give him a large contract when they know he is good for 40% of their games each year. If he wants big money he is going to have to do it on a discount. That or he has to wait and "show out" if he wants to get paid. It is too large of a risk to pay him 10-15 million a year over 4 or 5 years if we keep getting what we are getting for him. Offer him 5/35 and if he doesn't take it, milk him for all he is worth and sell him off a year before he reaches FA. He will likely be cooked by then anyway if he keeps on the path he is on. We also have to remember, he STILL goes through periods where he looks like one of the worst hitters in the league.
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What for Baez? Other than Lindor, he might be the best SS in baseball. Great fielder and a nice power bat as well in his prime. They aren't gonna give him up for nothing, he would cost a ton IMO. This guy is a fantastic ballplayer. Twins would have to give up the farm to get either of those guys. It won't happen. To me, Polanco has plenty of worth on this club as the starting SS. I only move him if Lewis is ready or if his(Polanco's) injury keeps nagging/turns out to be worse than we think.
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2 year deal and I'm in. I wouldn't overpay for this guy though. Hand it off to one of your young guys if he wants a 4 year deal or something. To be honest, I think with the Covid stuff still hanging over their heads and the losses incurred this past season, a 4-year deal to an average pitcher just isn't going to happen IMO. Offer he and Odo the same deal and let them know whoever takes it first, that is who will be the Twins #3 starter.
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I saw a graphic the other day watching one of the other playoff games. Trevor May has the second highest swing and miss rate on his 4-seam fastball among all relievers in baseball. Looks to me that Hader has 3 years left of arbitration? I just like his arm, that is all. That and I am not as schooled on relievers throughout the league as some would be. If our FO can identify the type you are talking about, I am all for it. I don't mind Clippard and/or Romo either, but like you, I would rather have these guys be used more in 5-6-7th inning situations. I don't want to have to count on a 40 year old reliever to get the biggest outs of the season when it comes down to it, I want someone in their prime. Basically, I want someone in here with a live arm with great velocity and movement. If we have to give up Sano or Buxton for it, I don't care anymore. These 2 have kind of had their chance and pissed the bed.
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The 2020 All-AL Central Team
Battle ur tail off replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
No, Buxton shouldn't have a case made for him IMO. You can't just constantly be hurt and make anyone's top list. Also on your second statement, I agree. The problem is, he will never be on the field for more than 80-90 games per year. He has shown this over and over. -
I'm all for Doc's plan. I think Ordorizzi can be had for relatively cheap and would be a good investment. Bringing May back makes sense as well. I also like the idea of going out and getting a high end reliever. This won't come cheap though, I don't see Rosario being worth much of anything to be honest. Jake Cave? Negative value IMO. It will take one of our better prospects, or someone like Buxton, Sano or Kepler to get this done, if in fact, you are going after someone that is a real top stud. Josh Hader???????
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Is it Time to Move on From Nelson Cruz?
Battle ur tail off replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
NO! Dump your best hitter? Why so we can replace him with someone CHEAP that doesn't produce as well? If you sign him for 2 years and he produces 1 and is used as a platoon or pinch hitter in the other, I am fine with that. This post reads like a classic Twins apologist take. Do what makes the team better, not what is cheap. Saving money doesn't give the team any more wins. -
Buxton for sure. Anything and everything injures him. He basically gives us 3-4 weeks of good play a year, then the rest is on the injured list or stuck in a large slump and hitting about .150. I love him when he's healthy and producing. But the problem is, that is a very small part of his season each year.
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I don't call a strikeout king, and a guy that is always hurt and only productive for part of the season studs. These are supposed to be our cornerstones. I will say I put 25% of this postseason on Rocco for managing terribly, 50% of this loss on Buxton and Sano, 25% on the front office for feeling like these guys are Puckett and Hrbek. They are not. Far from it. Let's be real honest here. Until Buxton and Sano step up and carry this team, this core will NOT survive and advance. It's the same thing we've been saying for the last 3 seasons. Waiting for these 2 to finally get it and turn the corner...
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Analytics don't mean **** in the postseason. The big names always shine. Why is that? Why do no names rarely make a difference? Flat out you need a few studs. You really don't have any. You have some good players, but you don't have a Kirby Puckett, you don't have a Frank Viola or a Jack Morris, you don't even have a Chuck Knoblauch. Look back in history and lets find how many low-paid, mid level players made much of a difference when it came to the postseason. These guys get paid for a reason.
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5 Overreactions to the Twins Game 1 Loss
Battle ur tail off replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I agree. Definitely not overreactions. On Arraez. That's a tough play. He's coming from one side of 2nd and the ball goes to the other. It was a terrible, inexcusable error for Polanco IMO. Go back and rewatch it. He was trying to look pretty. It was BS and most 6th or 7th grade kids make that play without issue. Over the course of the season, these things happen. But in the playoffs, they flat out CANNOT. You have to focus and make the easy play there. -
I like what you are getting at. I agree with almost all of it. It would be nice though to win the playoffs ever. That part is the last thing that needs to come together. Also, Jack Morris cannot be argued against by anyone in being the best FA Twins signing. I don't know if you recall, but he pitched the most important and best game in baseball history. Literally a 10 inning gem that hasn't and won't be closed to replicated ever. I LOVE Cruz, but that one game alone makes him the best FA signing in Twins history.
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Kepler, Buxton, Cave. Anyone that plays outfield for the Twins has done worse than he has at the plate. Much worse in fact Buxton hasn't been on the field and still can't hit, flat out. Eddie is also 2nd on the team in RBIs, 3rd in HRs, and 2nd in OPS among our starters. I get it. But a few games isn't enough to make me want to just move on. I get where you are coming from, but I just keep paying him in arbitration and ride it till we don't have him under team control. Platoon him if you must with younger players.
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Credit Where It's Due
Battle ur tail off replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I love the runner on 2nd rule as well. This is what they do in the fastpitch softball world. My daughter plays travel ball so I have seen alot of them. Makes extra innings much more fun. -
Official 2020 Trade Deadline Thread
Battle ur tail off replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
No, I mean if you are going to make trades, etc., wait until the offseason after we see how the rest of this year goes. As far as bringing guys up. If the Twins think they will help more than what we have right now, then I'm totally fine with it. Or if the team feels they have a real shot at doing some playoff damage, then fine start the clock on a few of them. I'd have to see more from the team than I have lately though in order to make that decision. Right now, they are looking like one and dones again. -
Official 2020 Trade Deadline Thread
Battle ur tail off replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'm with you. Normally I hate this kind of inaction and when people say getting players back from the injured list is as good as a trade, etc. However, this year, I didn't see anyone worth going after. We also don't even really know what we have in this team as there haven't been many games played and we have been hit with the injury bug so bad. Let the guys come back, let it play out and lets see what we have going into the offseason.

