My thread about Santana is relevant, seeing how he's the best pitcher in the Twins organization right now. And I believe my post was titled "deserve some credit". That's hardly a ringing endorsement of the old front office, merely a hat tip to acquiring a very good pitcher. And it's not as if the old front office did that very often, something we all acknowledge and talk about ad nauseum. No one here has defended Murphy. He's been terrible. Hicks is long gone and has a good 40 plate appearance streak going. Before that, Hicks was also terrible. My point at large is that you've been intentionally stirring the pot again, hammering at points that don't seem very relevant to the 2017 Twins or the people in charge. You can deflect all you want about how some of the same guys are still in charge but do you honestly believe the Hicks/Murphy trade would happen under Falvey and Levine? If not, what's the point of continuing this line of discussion? Normally, I'd ignore this thread and post but in times like these, we clamp down on the forums because it's easy to let them spiral out of control as posters (and, frankly, we moderators and owners) get frustrated with the play of the team and create vendetta threads/posts. And that's bad for the site.