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    What the Brewers Can Teach the Twins About Trading Joe Ryan

    Minnesota may not view itself as a seller, but Milwaukee has shown how moving a star at the right time can keep a small-market contender competitive for years. Is the timing right?

    Cody Christie
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    The word "seller" carries a negative connotation around the trade deadline. It signals surrender, rebuilding, and punting on the current season. That's why it's understandable that the Twins have shown little interest in waving the white flag while they remain in the American League playoff race. But what if there was another way to approach the deadline?

    Over the last several years, the Milwaukee Brewers have built one of baseball's most sustainable organizations by refusing to let emotion dictate difficult roster decisions. They haven't traded stars because they were rebuilding. They've traded them because they understood the value of moving elite players before their trade value began to decline.

    The Twins may soon face that same crossroads with Joe Ryan. Ryan has developed into one of the American League's best starting pitchers. Through 104 1/3 innings this season, the 30-year-old owns a 2.85 ERA with 122 strikeouts. He's pitching like a legitimate front-line starter, and has earned a second straight All-Star nod. He's also under club control through next season, giving any acquiring team two postseason runs to make the most of his upside.

    That combination is incredibly valuable. It also means Ryan's value may never be higher. If Minnesota wants to maximize its long-term championship window, it should at least consider following Milwaukee's blueprint.

    The Brewers Never Wait Too Long

    Small-market teams rarely win by keeping everyone together forever. Instead, they maximize every asset before free agency forces difficult decisions. Milwaukee has mastered that philosophy.

    Rather than allowing stars to walk away for draft-pick compensation, the Brewers have consistently identified the moment when a player's value peaked and turned those players into multiple years of affordable talent. That strategy hasn't pushed Milwaukee into rebuilding. Instead, it has helped the Brewers remain one of baseball's most consistent contenders.

    Here's a look at how Milwaukee has handled similar decisions with some of its biggest arms. One detail immediately stands out: only one of these trades happened at the deadline. The others came during the offseason, when teams were willing to pay a premium for a full season of control.

    Corbin Burnes
    Trade Date: February 2024

    After the 2023 season, Milwaukee traded Burnes with one year of club control remaining. Rather than settling for draft-pick compensation, the Brewers landed two players capable of contributing immediately in DL Hall and Joey Ortizand they picked up a competitive-balance pick from Baltimore to bolster their 2024 class.

    Hall has transitioned into a bullpen role and taken a significant step forward this season, lowering his ERA to 2.03 while increasing his strikeout rate from 17.4% to 25.4%. Ortiz produced 2.8 WAR with a 102 OPS+ during his first season in Milwaukee before taking a step back offensively. Neither player has become a superstar, but Milwaukee turned one remaining season of Burnes into two controllable major leaguers while staying in contention. (Blake Burke, whom they took with that draft pick and on whom they also saved about $500,000 in bonus pool money to spend elsewhere, has an .846 OPS in his pro career and is likely to reach Triple-A this summer.)

    Josh Hader
    Trade Date: August 2022

    Perhaps no Brewers trade was more controversial than dealing Josh Hader in the middle of a division race. At the time, fans questioned why Milwaukee would move arguably baseball's best closer while trying to reach the postseason.

    The Brewers looked beyond the current standings. Milwaukee acquired Robert Gasser, Taylor Rogers, Dinelson Lamet, and Esteury Ruiz. Gasser has already become a capable big-league starter, despite a significant setback in the form of Tommy John surgery in 2024. Rogers added a lefty to the bullpen for the stretch run, and Ruiz was later included in the three-team trade that brought William Contreras to Milwaukee. In fact, he was all the Crew gave up to land Contreras, who has now made two All-Star teams for them.

    Hader had limited club control remaining, and relievers rarely carry more value than as elite closers with a chance to anchor a playoff bullpen for multiple seasons. Milwaukee capitalized before that value began to decline. This one comes closest to being a cautionary tale, because that was the only time since 2017 that the Brewers have missed the postseason, and the front office was blamed for that, based on the vibes of a midseason trade of such magnitude. However, in the medium and long term, it looks like a brilliant maneuver.

    Devin Williams
    Trade Date: December 2024

    Milwaukee repeated the process with Devin Williams. Rather than extending an expensive closer into his 30s, the Brewers again moved one of baseball's premier relievers while his value remained exceptionally high.

    The Brewers received Nestor Cortes and infielder Caleb Durbin for Williams in the 2024-25 offseason. Cortes's injuries limited his impact before he was moved at the following trade deadline, while Durbin later became part of another multi-player deal that brought Shane Drohan, David Hamilton, and Kyle Harrison to Milwaukee. Once again, the Brewers turned one valuable reliever into multiple controllable assets, and got production even in the meantime.

    Freddy Peralta
    Trade Date: January 2026

    Freddy Peralta represents the same type of decision the Twins may soon face with Ryan. After years of trade speculation, Milwaukee finally dealt Peralta to the Mets for top prospect Jett Williams and right-hander Brandon Sproat. Williams remains one of baseball's top prospects despite an uneven season at Triple-A, while Sproat immediately stepped into Milwaukee's major-league rotation.

    Ryan fits a similar profile. As was true with Peralta, an acquiring club wouldn't simply be renting him for two months. Ryan would provide a postseason run this year and another full season of control in 2027. That dramatically increases the asking price.

    Why Ryan Could Bring Even More

    Ryan's combination of production, durability, and contract status makes him one of the most valuable pitchers who could realistically become available. He's not owed a massive contract, and he's pitching like a legitimate ace. That's exactly the type of arm contenders are willing to overpay to acquire. With the extra half-year of control baked in, he would have to fetch Minnesota more than what Burnes or Peralta got for Milwaukee.

    The Twins already possess one of baseball's strongest farm systems after last year's deadline additions. Trading Ryan wouldn't signal the end of their competitive window—it could extend it. Imagine adding multiple top-100 prospects, upper-level pitching depth, and another high-upside position player to an organization that already features Walker Jenkins, Kaelen Culpepper, Emmanuel Rodriguez, Eduardo Tait, and several other premium young talents.

    The Timing Matters

    One lesson stands out from Milwaukee's recent history: only Hader was traded during the season. Burnes and Williams were moved during the offseason, while Peralta remained with the Brewers through another postseason run before they eventually cashed in. That's an important distinction for Minnesota.

    The Twins don't have to make this decision before the trade deadline. If they believe this team can reach the postseason, Ryan can remain atop the rotation through October before the front office revisits trade discussions this winter. In fact, that could be the better path. Teams often pay a premium for a pitcher with a full season of control, rather than just two months, giving Minnesota the opportunity to compete now while preserving Ryan's long-term trade value. The Brewers have repeatedly shown that patience can be just as valuable as urgency.

    It's About Extending the Window

    The Brewers have shown there is a difference between selling and managing a championship window. They've remained annual contenders because they consistently make emotionally difficult decisions before circumstances force them into weaker ones.

    The Twins don't have to trade Joe Ryan. If they believe they can sign him to a long-term extension, keeping him is the obvious choice. But if an extension isn't realistic, waiting until the final months of his contract could dramatically reduce his value. At that point, acquiring teams would receive only a few months of control, instead of another full season, shrinking both the number of interested clubs and the quality of offers.

    Trading Ryan would undoubtedly be unpopular. It would also require tremendous confidence in Minnesota's scouting and player development departments. That's exactly the type of move successful small-market organizations make—though, we ought to note, the Twins are a small-market team more in self-image and by default than in fact. 

    Milwaukee has demonstrated that moving elite pitchers before free agency isn't waving the white flag—it's investing in sustained success. The Twins may not consider themselves sellers this summer, and they probably shouldn't. However, if another organization is willing to offer the type of franchise-altering package Milwaukee has repeatedly secured for its stars, Minnesota owes it to itself to listen.

    Whether that decision comes in a few weeks or this winter, the Brewers have already provided the blueprint. Sometimes the hardest trade isn't the one that closes a championship window—it's the one that keeps it open for years to come.


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    5 hours ago, strumdatjag said:

    Of course, the Twins accept an overpayment for Ryan 

    But FIRST concentrate on moving one of our three catchers.  I’d like to see Jeffers signed longterm with Caratini traded to a contender desperate for a catcher (but keeping Caratini and trading Jeffers should be explored as well).  
    The Twins have too many left-handed hitting outfielders.  Try to trade some of that glut for one or two major league arms and more minor league pitching prospects.  
    Use the deadline to start to rebalance the roster and the minor league system. 

    Buxton - Martin - Keaschall - Gonzalez ……. maybe Kreidler if Culpepper is up in 6 weeks…… 70-75% of pitchers are RH. I do not see a problem with having too many LH batting Outfileders.

    Emma hasn’t played 75 games in a summer for 4 summers or more (at least it seems that way!) Roden  - Jenkins  & then Larnach as future DH platoon.

    To me, Wallner does not register as a Twin’s player any longer. Hope I’m wrong but Kody Clemens - Luke Keaschall - Allen Roden are  ALL now (or have been) ahead of Matt.

    Trades are legal - don’t have to trade the oldest guys first.

    The Twins are in a crappy spot.  They burned their own fanbase with the fakeout on selling the team and slashing payroll after a fun postseason.  They aren't winning fans back easily and the only path, IMO, is sustained winning.

    Joe Ryan, hypothetically, could be a great means to that end....but all reporting we have is that he hasn't been interested in an extension.  Which sure feels like he's counting the days to hit the open market.  Good for him, have loved watching him pitch, hope he gets a bag of cash.  But the Twins can't let him walk for nothing.  Too many other failures, coupled with MLB's economics, make it nothing short of malfeasance to watch that happen.

    Now...the Brewers haven't come away well in most of these trades.  It doesn't look great.  Several deals of the last five years (Snell, Glasnow, Burnes, Peralta, etc) don't look great for the trading team.  That stinks, but what other path is there but the wisest one?

    Some comp pick for Ryan won't help Walter Jenkins.  And maybe trading Ryan won't either, but I know which one has a better chance to.

    If only the AL was decent in W/L records this decision would be much simpler. Then throw in a new CBA. (eventually) Two new ownership groups added 500 mil and Tom Pohlads 1st season as CEO...What a mess...

    Just on the unknown CBA makes comparing the trades mentioned kind unfair. The Brewers had years of clear sailing ahead. I don't want to get into the weeds on the new CBA. To many unknowns

    If one or two of Pablo, Festa or Abel were healthy and performing, now is the time. But they aren't... Plus the SP depth is completely depleted. I guess I'm in the "if it's a substantial overpay" column. A top 15 player you just can't pass those offers up. A package of 3-4 maybes, I'd pass.

    Also, I think extending Ryan is likely to turn out bad. He's going to want 4-7 years, is 30 years old. That's a lot of miles on his arm. To many pitcher crash and burn after age 32.

    I'd hate to see Joe Ryan get traded.  Some pitchers are just more fun to watch than others and Joe Ryan is one of those guys.  But there are certain realities we have to acknowledge as fans.  

    1.  The Twins are "competitive" this season only because they play in the worst division of any pro league, and the American League is a shambles.  I can't remember the last time it was this moribund.  Probably 1968 minus the Tigers.

    2.  We are not serious contenders for anything.  I can't imagine there isn't a FO in baseball who IS NOT calculating how the Lockout/Strike could effect their team and payroll for 2027.

    3.  The Twins 2 biggest trade assets:  Joe Ryan and Ryan Jeffers do not want to be Minnesota Twins anymore.  Neither has shown any interest in signing an extension (I have to believe the Twins have at least ASKED them about it, and probably have been rebuffed).

    4.  With 1991 waaaay back in the rearview mirror, is there anyone on TD who loves or even LIKES the Pohlad Family as owners?  ANYBODY?  The same goes for the FO people they have employed.  ANYBODY?  If the feeling is we shouldn't make trades because we're just not that good at it (in general, the Nelson Cruz and Joe Ryan trades were great) then we not only need a new ownership group but a complete revamp of our FO.  

    5.  We have the chance to add a possible game changing player in the MLB draft today and a prevailing opinion is that we hope the FO doesn't get cute, or outthink themselves and screw it up.  With that kind of reality, we need a new FO.  

    6.  The fan base is not happy with ownership or FO leadership/decision making.  Trading Joe Ryan or Ryan Jeffers can't damage this any more than it already is.  Only NEW ownership and leadership will wipe the slate clean and at least lead to fans willing to give the franchise a "2nd Chance."  Labor strife is just around the corner.  It's a perfect storm.

    7.  Today, we should at least hold our collective breath until the first 2 picks of the draft are made and then take a deep breath before this FO makes our selection.  Then, if indeed they don't get too cute or over think the obvious, breathe a sigh of relief and enjoy the future star we end up with.  

    8.  The trade deadline can wait until after this weekend.  

    This article is the best and most relevant topic in a while.  For whatever reason, Minnesotans would rather keep an average player than obtain a better player.  We'd rather play the victim when a player we should have traded gets hurt or spurns us for his next contract.  Good organizations take all emotion and weird connections out of the equation.  Sure, you overpay Kirby Puckett rather than let him go, there are exceptions.  But we cannot let this weird attachment thing determine how the roster is shaped.  #1 example is Anthony Edwards.

    I've said trade him, and people automatically freak out.  "He's one of the most talented players in the world!" (yes he is).  "He's a top five player in the league!"  (no he's not, not remotely).  "I like Ant!" (because you've become attached to him and for some reason place more importance on that than winning)

    An't's best attribute?  His trade value.

    Joe Ryan's best attribute for a mediocre team he has 1.5 years remaining with?  His trade value.

    Ryan Jeffers?  His trade value.

    Koby Clemens? His trade value, possibly.  He also may be a stabilizer for carryover.

    Larnach?  Probably his trade value for the first time since he was a minor league prospect.

    Josh Bell? whatever little you can get.

    Yeah, it's fun to be in the playoff race, and I understand fans are frustrated, but you don't do what you did last summer if you aren't willing to do it again.

     

     




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