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    Twins 2, Dodgers 6: Twins Fall Below .500


    Seth Stohs

    For the first time since late April, the Minnesota Twins are a game below .500 (49-50).

    In one of the longest games in major league history (OK, not really, it just seemed like it), the Dodgers post a second win against the Twins. Dodgers starting pitcher Kenta Maeda took about a month-and-a-half between pitches. Then in the sixth inning, one of the strangest 20+ minute delays in my lifetime kept the game going even longer. On Wednesday, the Twins will attempt to avoid being swept by putting Ervin Santana on the mound.

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    Before the game even started, things were a bit strange for the Twins. Less than an hour before game time, Miguel Sano was scratched from the lineup due to his aggravated wrist (from Monday night’s hit-by-pitch). He got x-rays, and they were negative, which of course is positive. Eduardo Escobar was going to hit sixth and play shortstop. Instead, he moved to third base and batted cleanup. Jorge Polanco played shortstop. That was the easy lineup construction situation of this game.

    Win Expectancy (via fangraphs)

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    Jose Berrios started for the Twins and he was solid early. He began the game with three shutout innings. He used his fastball at a variety of speeds, from 92 to 97. He also had a very sharp curveball again, as evidenced by this 1st-inning pitch to Corey Seager:

    https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/890036001279811584

    Top Three Twins (by Win Expectancy)

    1. Zack Granite (.078) - 1-4, RBI 1B
    2. Joe Mauer (.060) - 1-2, 2 BB
    3. Jason Castro (.026) - 1-4

    Zack Granite gave the Twins a 1-0 lead with an RBI single in the 3rd inning. However, in the fourth inning, the Dodgers bats took over. They scored four runs on five hits off of Berrios. While he got through the inning, he was pinch hit for in the top of the fifth frame. Trevor Hildenberger pitched a scoreless fifth frame. He got one out in the sixth as well.

    However, that’s when things went strange. Paul Molitor came out to talk to the umpire and tell him he was making a double-switch. He had Ryan Pressly come in to the game to take Hildenberger’s spot as pitcher. He had Ehire Adrianza come in to play shortstop, replacing Jorge Polanco. Of course, Adrianza would bat in the pitcher’s spot in the double switch. Seemed simple enough.

    As Molitor explained, the umpire somehow heard that Belisle was coming in for Rosario. Molitor thought that he explained it (Pressly for Polanco) correctly. Molitor took the blame for the miscommunication, though I certainly don't think he needs to.

    https://twitter.com/fsnorth/status/890094677990551553

    But after Pressly threw one pitch, Dodgers manager Dave Roberts came out to ask the umpires about the double switch. Confusion ensued. The umps talked to Roberts. Then went and talked to Molitor. Then Roberts again. Then they called the offices in New York where a rules interpretation was done. Over 20 minutes later, Polanco needed to stay in the game and Adrianza went to left field with Eddie Rosario coming up. That meant that the pitcher’s spot in the lineup would come up two spots earlier.

    Roberts explained following the game that part of the concern was that Jorge Polanco had been taken out of the game for the first pitch after Pressly came in. He noted that apparently there is a re-entry rule that allowed Polanco to re-enter the game at shortstop when Adrianza went out to left field instead, removing the hot-hitting Eddie Rosario.

    https://twitter.com/fsnorth/status/890092125345525761

    Of course, Roberts kept saying Escobar, which was wrong, and probably adds to the confusion.

    After the 20+ minute delay, Pressly served up three straight hits to give the Dodgers two additional runs of offense. They didn’t need it, but it gave them the final 6-2 win.

    AL Central

    Cleveland won late on an Edwin Encarnacion grand slam. Earlier in the evening, the Royals topped the Tigers. The White Sox lost to the Cubs. The Twins came into their Tuesday night game at Dodgers Stadium with a .500 record and… …

    Cleveland 52-45 .536 ---

    Kansas City 52-47 .525 1.0

    TWINS 49-50 .495 4.0

    Detroit 45-54 .455 7.0

    Chicago 39-58 .402 8.0

    Bullpen Usage

    Trevor Hildenberger, Ryan Pressly and Alan Busenitz worked out of the Twins bullpen on Tuesday night. Here is a look at which relievers may be available on Wednesday night.

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    What’s Next?

    The Twins and Dodgers will finish their three-game series on Wednesday night (9:10 central time). It will be Ervin Santana (1-0, 5.40 ERA) facing right-hander Brock Stewart (0-0, 0.00 ERA).

    Ervin Santana is coming off his worst start of the season. On Friday night, the All- Star gave up five runs and needed 95 pitches in just 3.1 innings against the Tigers. He gave up two homers in the game as well. In his one July start before the All-Star Game, he gave up two runs in nine innings. In his first post-All Star Game start, he gave up just two runs in six innings, but he walked five. Santana will look to get the Twins back on track.

    Lefty Alex Wood, who is 11-1 so far this season for the Dodgers, was scheduled to start on Wednesday. Instead, right-hander Brock Stewart will make his first start for the Dodgers this season. He has worked 13 innings over six appearances this season out of the bullpen. Last year, he made seven appearances, including five starts for the big league club. Stewart was a name mentioned in the offseason when there were approximately 13.2 million Brian Dozier-to-the-Dodgers rumors.

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    Concur 100% with implementing pitch clocks. It works out so smoothly in AAA and AA from the games I've attended. 

    Admittedly I did not watch the game last night as it was past my bedtime, so maybe Maeda was working slower than usual?

    Fangraphs has a neat feature called Pace Calculator and I hate to break it to everyone, but Maeda is not close to the worst out there.... In fact, the Twins now have 3 pitchers in the top 25 slowest paced SP! Jaime Garcia #12 at 25.7 seconds between pitches, Kyle Gibson #14 at 25.4 seconds, and Jose Berrios #23 at 24.8 seconds. 

    When I was watching, Morris was calling out the time between pitches.    Mauer's walk took forever.   Once, Maeda stepped off the rubber and Morris said it was 48 seconds that he was staring in and then didn't even pitch the ball.     All of them seemed to take well over 30 seconds.   Problem with taking over 30 seconds is that if a batter doesn't lose patience he will probably call timeout himself so he can go through his routine again and who can blame him?    Maybe Maeda was slower than normal.   Gibson on the list doesn't shock me but I am a bit surprised that Berrios is on the list.

     

    So, you think Molitor did nothing wrong? That everyone else was wrong?

     

    All we have to go on is Molitor's word, and I have no reason to believe he's making something up. We haven't heard from the ump or the league. We haven't heard any audio from that conversation. Until we know what was said specifically. 

     

    It was just such an obvious double-switch that it's hard to understand how it went so strange. 

     

    Please explain how the umpires "handled it horribly."

    Specifically.

     

    If Molitor told the ump Belisle for Rosario, and yet the ump doesn't notice that Pressly is coming in that Polanco and not Rosario is coming out... something weird happened. No one appears to be innocent in this. Guilt can go all around. 

    As for the double switch controversy, let's just add the DH to the NL. Problem solved.

     

    For pace of play, give the pitcher 20 seconds from gloving the ball to throwing the pitch, so long as the batter is also in the box. Allow a batter one timeout per AB, and prohibit him from stepping out of the box in between pitches. Limit catchers to three mound visits per game, with a 30 second limit. Starters are limited to one trip from a pitching coach, relievers as a whole get one visit from the pitching coach. Failure by the batter to observe the rules is a strike, failure by the pitcher to observe the rules is a ball, and an extra visit by a catcher or coach is an automatic walk where every base runner advances a base. If the bases are empty, it's a two-base walk, to ensure visits aren't used as intentional walks.

     

    When I was watching, Morris was calling out the time between pitches.    Mauer's walk took forever.   Once, Maeda stepped off the rubber and Morris said it was 48 seconds that he was staring in and then didn't even pitch the ball.     All of them seemed to take well over 30 seconds.   Problem with taking over 30 seconds is that if a batter doesn't lose patience he will probably call timeout himself so he can go through his routine again and who can blame him?    Maybe Maeda was slower than normal.   Gibson on the list doesn't shock me but I am a bit surprised that Berrios is on the list.

     

    If that's the case, then yeah, that's way too long between pitches. It seems like every year MLB tries to emphasize improving pace of play, but never truly enforce it. 

     

    EDIT: Also, at first I didn't see Maeda on the Fangraphs' Pace list, but there he is tucked in at #20 with 25 seconds between pitches. So he also works at a slow pace normally. 

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    Dick Bremer tweeted out, "Video shows Lance Barrett looking at Paul Molitor's adjusted lineup card. Seems inexcusable for the umpire to misunderstand intended move."

     

    Molitor said in the post-game his card was marked right.

     

    The only two conclusions I can come to are that the umpire screwed up, or Molitor is lying about his lineup card.  I highly doubt Molitor is lying.

     

    Or that Dick Bremer is reporting inaccurate information. I just watched the video, the umpire does glance down at Molitor's lineup card while he is retrieving his own card, but this was just after they spoke, before Molitor writes on it.

     

    Isn't on Molitor to look over at the umpire's card?  Or simply ask to see it after the ump has written it down?  Not that the umpire should be sloppy, but Molitor is the guy with the vested interest in the outcome of the move.  (Bremer too, I guess :) )

     

    Heck, Roberts actually came out to talk with the umpires as the switch was happening.  Molitor probably should have made it his beeswax to go over there and make sure they were all on the same page, and the whole matter could have been avoided.

    if the Twins dont make the playoffs Molitor should be gone? With the talent on this team (especially on the pitching side) the fact this team has held on this long in contention is quite something.

     

    There are reasons to fire Molitor, but a team that shouldnt make the playoffs (based on talent level) not making the playoffs isnt one of them.

    This team without Buxton or Sano will struggle to play .500 ball for long. That said, the secondary pieces are good, but Polanco and Granite could easily have been replaced with Adrianza and Grossman, with Kepler or Rosario in center. That right there is a better lineup than what Molitor drew up. At least until Polanco gets straightened out. Granite has no business hitting second right now. Maybe in the future someday.

     

    Who are you selling? And who's going to offer value for what the Twins are offering?

    Santana, Kintzler, Dozier, maybe Escobar and Rosario. Not sure. If nobody offers something that makes it worth while, then obviously don't pull the trigger. But the point is it doesn't seem like we've been trying to sell under the mistaken, albeit sympathetic view that we have much of a chance of making the playoffs.

     

    Well, anything about the game itself last night?

    Why would I want to talk about that ****show?

     

    This spiraled out of control quickly. They were a half game out just a few days ago.

    This is why I preferred they sell. This was inevitable. Now they're just a losing team with a bunch of old soon-expiring contracts (Santana, Dozier, Garcia, Mauer, etc), out of which they didn't pull any residual value.

     

    And it can spiral right back on top! Nothing a 10 game winning streak doesn't cure. I don't throw in the towel, yet. It is going to happen to one or two of the teams in the Central. It already happened to KC (who are my pick to win the division), and got them right at the top. Hey....... the Twins had a 9 game run of lost one/won one, and basically played .500 ball coming out of the All-star break, and then ran into the LA Dodgers, who are only 34-6 in their last 40 games! It isn't just the Twins failing when the Dodgers have landed on their schedule. This has been happening to all the teams that are playing the Dodgers. These guys know how to win, and when the rally starts, the buzz is on, and everyone on the team emotes it and expects to get a hit and continue it, and every one in the stands feels it. It is quite remarkable what is happening right now. This is a team that has a ton of earned confidence. The feeling is infectious to all in its presence. 

     

    I am glad the Twins didn't take Jose De Leon. Just like the Nationals pawning off Meyer for Span, there is a reason the Dodgers insisted the trade for a second baseman would be De Leon no matter who they traded with. The Dodgers felt he was not elite, and wanted to move him. Check out how his season has been, even if you don't consider he was out for a month and a half. For this FO to be successful, it is important they make the call and identification early with prospects, make early choices and prune redundancy, rather than holding them, paralyzed by hope, while they stall in AA or AAA and lose their value. 

     

    Mauer can't lose anymore value, and could just gain some with a burst that has been coming for years (right? it has to be coming......). Garcia is a cheap rental, and could really help, and I don't see how he could hurt. Dozier is due to get hot..... and Santana can too, and often, in his career, has the mid season lull and comes on again. Plus, the guys need to gel and perform as a team. I think there is a new manager next year, just because Molitor's contract expires, and the FO guys made a deal they are honoring in his case, but can pick their own guy after this year. I don't throw in the towel at this point, that is for sure.

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    And it can spiral right back on top! Nothing a 10 game winning streak doesn't cure. I don't throw in the towel, yet. It is going to happen to one or two of the teams in the Central. It already happened to KC (who are my pick to win the division), and got them right at the top. Hey....... the Twins had a 9 game run of lost one/won one, and basically played .500 ball coming out of the All-star break, and then ran into the LA Dodgers, who are only 34-6 in their last 40 games! It isn't just the Twins failing when the Dodgers have landed on their schedule. This has been happening to all the teams that are playing the Dodgers. These guys know how to win, and when the rally starts, the buzz is on, and everyone on the team emotes it and expects to get a hit and continue it, and every one in the stands feels it. It is quite remarkable what is happening right now. This is a team that has a ton of earned confidence. The feeling is infectious to all in its presence. 

     

    I am glad the Twins didn't take Jose De Leon. Just like the Nationals pawning off Meyer for Span, there is a reason the Dodgers insisted the trade for a second baseman would be De Leon no matter who they traded with. The Dodgers felt he was not elite, and wanted to move him. Check out how his season has been, even if you don't consider he was out for a month and a half. For this FO to be successful, it is important they start make the call and identification early with prospects, make early choices and prune redundancy, rather than holding them, paralyzed by hope, while they stall in AA or AAA and lose their value. 

     

    Mauer can't lose anymore value, and could just gain some with a burst that has been coming for years (right? it has to be coming......). Garcia is a cheap rental, and could really help, and I don't see how he could hurt. Dozier is due to get hot..... and Santana can too, and often, in his career, has the mid season lull and comes on again. Plus, the guys need to gel and perform as a team. I think there is a new manager next year, just because Molitor's contract expires, and the FO guys made a deal they are honoring in his case, but can pick their own guy after this year. I don't throw in the towel at this point, that is for sure.

    Great post. The pennant chase is slipping out of their grasp, let's see how they respond.

     

    While I generally agree that the team hasn't been great in those situations, the inning you reference (When Berrios and Dozier struck out), Zack Granite came through with a two-out RBI single. 

     

    Yes, Granite did come through there.  Then Mauer walked to load them up again and Escobar grounded out. Just so many wasted opportunities to get crooked numbers.

     

    Dozier has been absolutely awful this series at the plate. He struck out with the bases loaded and less-than-2-outs in both games.

     

    Yes, Granite did come through there.  Then Mauer walked to load them up again and Escobar grounded out. Just so many wasted opportunities to get crooked numbers.

     

    Dozier has been absolutely awful this series at the plate. He struck out with the bases loaded and less-than-2-outs in both games.

     

    I mean, with two outs, to score you have to get a hit... Aren't the odds of that generally going to be about 1 in 4 or maybe 3 in 10?

     

    Striking out with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs hurts a lot... getting out with two outs doesn't bother me. 




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