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    Sizing Up The 2017-18 Offseason


    Nick Nelson

    Turnarounds like the one we saw from Minnesota this season are rare, but not unprecedented. Derek Falvey knows this as well as anyone.

    Fresh off his first year as Twins Chief Baseball Officer, Falvey is working in familiar territory. He understands from experience that the hardest part isn't going from irrelevance to contention, but taking the next step.

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    ** Before we get started on this overview of the coming offseason, I'll make a quick pitch for your quintessential Hot Stove guide: The 2018 Twins Daily Offseason Handbook is now available for preorder. Click the link to claim your copy, and you'll get it as soon as it's ready, after the postseason concludes. Same deal as last year: name your price. Recommendation is $5, but you can pay as little or as much as you wish. We appreciate any and all support! Plenty more details are on the way in the coming weeks. You can check out last year's edition for an idea of what to expect. **

    Midway through Falvey's tenure in Cleveland's front office, the Indians made a leap similar to the one we just saw from the Twins. After finishing in fourth place with 94 losses in 2012, Cleveland improved by 24 wins, earning a Wild Card berth in 2013 but losing to the Rays.

    In that case, the sudden emergence was followed by two years of treading water. The Indians won 85 and 81 games the next two seasons, finishing third both times, before rising to win the AL Central and pennant in 2016. This year, of course, they won 102 games and took the division again, but were ousted by the Yankees in the ALDS.

    For Falvey and his general manager Thad Levine, the goal is to unseat the current Central champs by following a similar path, but skipping the stagnation. Given the makeup of this roster as we head into the offseason, that's a reasonable objective.

    And in fact, while there's been much talk of a measured approach aligning with the big picture, one can argue that the front office should be making a very emphatic championship push in 2018 specifically.

    END OF AN ERA?

    Brian Dozier and Joe Mauer are both in line to return next year, and we can only hope they'll be as effective as in 2017.

    Sustained performance is no given; Mauer turns 35 next April, Dozier 31 in May. Age can become a factor at any time. There's also the matter of their contracts, which both expire after next year. The Twins certainly could bring them back, but it's hardly assured. This may well be the last chance to make a run with both longtime staples as key contributors.

    MARK YOUR CALENDARS

    Here are some important dates worth keeping in mind as we survey the offseason landscape.

    Three Days After End of World Series: Contract Options Due. The Twins only have one and it's a no-brainer: they'll exercise a $700,000 buyout to decline the $6.5 million team option for Glen Perkins.

    Five Days After End of World Series: Deadline to Make Qualifying Offers to Free Agents. For the five days after the postseason concludes, MLB teams get an exclusive negotiating window with their own free agents. During this time, they can make a qualifying offer, which brings the player back on a one-year (~$18M) contract if accepted, and yields draft pick compensation if they decline and sign elsewhere.

    None of the Twins' internal free agents – Matt Belisle, Bartolo Colon, Hector Santiago, Dillon Gee – are worthy of a QO, and it's highly unlikely Minnesota will sign any before the market opens up.

    Six Days After End of World Series: Free Agency Open for Business. We don't know much about how this front office will operate yet, but if their first major move was any indication, they are going to be aggressive in pursuing their top targets. Last offseason, the Twins made their interest in Jason Castro known very quickly, and had him signed before the end of November.

    Once free agency officially gets underway, we should start hearing rumblings pretty quickly about players that Falvey and Thad Levine are keen on. This is the first offseason where they've had a chance to fully set up a plan going in, so they undoubtedly already have some names in mind.

    I suspect they'll be shopping for three things in particular: starting pitchers, relief pitchers and right-handed bats. You can get a deep look at what's available in each of those categories with our Free Agency breakdowns in the Offseason Handbook.

    November 13th-16th: GM Meetings. Today's general managers communicate through many different channels to negotiate trades (much of the action happens on Tinder, Levine has joked) but there's still something to be said for an old-fashioned face-to-face discussion. All 30 GMs will be in the same place during this week, with the annual GM Meetings taking place in Orlando. It'll be an opportunity to lay the groundwork with other execs as well as agents.

    Falvey and Levine haven't been shy about pulling the trigger on deals thus far, and started up extensive talks with the Dodgers over Dozier last winter around this time.

    December 10th-14th: Winter Meetings. One month later, the baseball world will converge once again in Orlando for the Winter Meetings – typically the most active period of the entire offseason. What kinds of shakeups might we see from the Twins?

    EXTENSIONS, EXTENSIONS, EXTENSIONS

    Some of the biggest storylines of this offseason will surround potential long-term contracts for a number of different players. Last week, John wrote about the merits of locking up Miguel Sano, Byron Buxton and Eddie Rosario ahead of their arbitration years. A day later, Seth pondered what an extension for Dozier might look like as he looks ahead to a walk year. This week, he also took a deeper dive on how a Buxton extension could take shape.

    Here at Twins Daily, we'll of course have plenty more coverage of Hot Stove season as it gets piping, with all of the speculation, analysis and up-to-the-minute news you expect. But I promise you this: you are going to want a copy of the Offseason Handbook as a handy resource along the way. Please consider preordering yours now to ensure you receive it the moment it becomes available.

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    On his chat today, Dave Cameron said that he thinks a Betances trade is the single most likely transaction of the offseason. The walks have been a big issue lately, but he could be a nice buy low candidate.

    Interesting. But is it really buy low when he just posted a 2.87 ERA and allowed a .141 average? It'll take a haul to get him.

    Interesting. But is it really buy low when he just posted a 2.87 ERA and allowed a .141 average? It'll take a haul to get him.

    I think it's possible, if only because his FIP rose pretty significantly, as well as the arbitration debacle last year. The Yankees have more than enough bullpen arms to offer him at a bit of a discount.

    I tend to agree here. Let's just make the bold prediction a starter is signed. The bullpen, IMO, really needs that one proven arm for talent, depth, production and leadership. Kintzler and Belisle added a lot to the club despite not being "top shelf" options. I believe some of that was a veteran stability. And I don't think it's "safe" to just look at the talented young BP arms and simply assume we'll be OK. But on the other hand, Pressly, Duffey, Rogers, Hildenberger and Busentiz all offer a starting/building point with Curtiss, Reed, Bard, Jay as some that could be close, along with a return to health, eventually, for Burdi and Chargois sometime in 2018. What about Moya, Enns and maybe Melotakis yet from the port side?I could easily see a second BP arm, but I wouldn't get carried away with years and dollars. There ARE options to build with, turn to, and on the way.

    lets not forget Romero, Mejia and Gonsalvez. Odds are much better for those guys to be relievers than starters, lots of upside there.

    On the subject of adding a free agent DH, I'm not that gung-ho on the idea. You can spend a ton of money on some home-run machine like Napoli who ends up barely hitting for a .200 average (and less than a .300 OBP), or you can do as others have suggested, and have a rotating mix of guys like Mauer and Grossman to handle the DH spot. No, they don't hit for power, but they DO get on base a lot. Something to be said for that. And it doesn't cost us a lot, seeing as how they are already under contract. That money would be more wisely spent on either another starter and/or an extra bullpen arm.

    From the article: "For Falvey and his general manager Thad Levine, the goal is to unseat the current Central champs by following a similar path, but skipping the stagnation."

     

    Why is skipping the stagnation the goal? I thought building a winning organization for the long term was Falvey and Levine's goal.

    Pushing hard this offseason, spending dollars and prospects to try to close the HUGE gap between the Twins and the Indians seems like folly. Yes, it may get us a few more wins this year and next but it could also diminish what we can do in a couple of years. 

    Signing a mid-tier starting and adding a few bullpen pieces - isn't that exactly what TR would do? 

    We need a system that wins. Yes, some fans may want the chips pushed in because of 1 winning season, but we are 10-15 wins below where we need to be. Adding a few pitchers will not do this. Having a system that creates this players and supplements them with a few additional players can do this. So if the FO decides to "tread water" for a year or two while building the system, I don't blame them.

    As a very few others have noted, my expectation is that they find starters that don't excite but can develop into starters that do excite. This will take some time.

     

    From the article: "For Falvey and his general manager Thad Levine, the goal is to unseat the current Central champs by following a similar path, but skipping the stagnation."

     

    Why is skipping the stagnation the goal? I thought building a winning organization for the long term was Falvey and Levine's goal.

    Pushing hard this offseason, spending dollars and prospects to try to close the HUGE gap between the Twins and the Indians seems like folly. Yes, it may get us a few more wins this year and next but it could also diminish what we can do in a couple of years. 

    Signing a mid-tier starting and adding a few bullpen pieces - isn't that exactly what TR would do? 

    We need a system that wins. Yes, some fans may want the chips pushed in because of 1 winning season, but we are 10-15 wins below where we need to be. Adding a few pitchers will not do this. Having a system that creates this players and supplements them with a few additional players can do this. So if the FO decides to "tread water" for a year or two while building the system, I don't blame them.

    As a very few others have noted, my expectation is that they find starters that don't excite but can develop into starters that do excite. This will take some time.

     

    How does signing a FA pitcher stop them from  building the system? Why are those mutually exclusive acts?

     

    Why is skipping the stagnation the goal? I thought building a winning organization for the long term was Falvey and Levine's goal.

    Signing free agents to multi-year contracts, and trading prospects you view as non-essential for long-term upgrades, is very much in line with the objective of building a sustained winner.

     

    Treading water and stagnating is a bad idea IMO because during that time you are potentially missing out on excellent, and cheap, years from your blossoming young offensive core. They're here, they're ready. You're also wasting what could be the final years from Mauer, Dozier, Santana. And you're losing out on a significant opportunity with three-fifths of the division basically rebuilding. That won't last forever.

     

    The time is now. I do not agree that the strategy should be focused around winning in 2-3 years. 

    Andy MacPhail aways said develop arms, buy bats. Regardless, I would open up the farm system and make the mega-trade for a youngish 2/3 starting pitcher. I really don't care which prospects they trade, but my preference is not to include Gonsalves or board scapegoat Kohl Stewart. 

    Technically, yes, it is your money.

    If you go to games.

    If you buy Twins merchandise.

    If you visit their webpage or assist them in fulfilling any other revenue stream.

    Your just forking over some of your hard earned cash to the Pohlads and Falvey to put a baseball team on the field.

     

    I'm intrigued by what this off season will bring.

    Based on early 2017 I expected a fire sale of more than just Kinzler at the deadline. Dozier, Escobar, Castro, Grossman, Molitor, Belisle...had the Twins hit the expectation levels set in March, probably none would be here now.

    Again, had results not been as good in 2017, I would have expected trades for young pitching talent. (see Indians rotation) As this year shows (34?), you can't have enough pitchers.

    And we still don't have enough, so what do they do?

    I would sign a veteran stop gap or two, but trade some young talented position players for more young pitching.

    Naw, I buy a shirsey, I get a shirsey, I got what I paid for.

     

    I buy a ticket to go to a game, I get entrance to the game, they play the game, I got what I paid for.

     

    You can’t buy a ticket and expect a win. That’s not how it works in sports. Movies, sure the antagonist wins. Matt Damon always wins in the movies. Ervin Santana doesn’t always win in real life.

     

    Now if you are unsatisfied with the product you can not buy a ticket, but you don’t get to dictate what a good product is. It’s not your money.

     

    Even with a publicly funded team, it’s still not your money, and you still don’t have a direct say.

     

    It’s the public’s money and the public has governance written by elected or selected representatives that dictates how the money is spent.

     

    The USA isn’t a democracy. It’s a republic.

     

    The Minnesota Twins are not a democracy, nor are they a public club. They are a privately held company. You have the choice to patronize or not, but you don’t get say in how things happen.

     

    Andy MacPhail aways said develop arms, buy bats. Regardless, I would open up the farm system and make the mega-trade for a youngish 2/3 starting pitcher. I really don't care which prospects they trade, but my preference is not to include Gonsalves or board scapegoat Kohl Stewart. 

    I personally doubt Stewart has the value to get a decent 2/3 back. But I'm bit surprised on your take on Gonsalves. I like him, don't get me wrong, but even if he breaks into the rotation in 2018, he's going to have some ups and downs making him at best an average pitcher in 2018-2019. If you can flip that for a guy who has already had the ups and downs and has figured things out, I think you do it. Yeah, you'll have 3 years of control, but that is still a good trade.

     

    and that's coming from a guy that really likes Gonsalves.

     

    "they'll exercise a $700,000 buyout to decline the $6.5 million team option for Glen Perkins."

     

    A nice going away present for Perkins!!! I think I could feed my family on that for awhile!!!

     

    Its amazing how the salaries of pro athletes has gotten into the Monopoly money range (see Wiggins, Andrew).  Baseball is the same way.

    I'm not disputing that professional athletes make a lot of money. But why do so few people complain about how much money is earned by rock musicians and movie stars? It's really no different. Athletes are entertainers just like musicians and actors are, and they are entitled to whatever someone is willing to pay them.

     

     It's really no different. Athletes are entertainers just like musicians and actors are, and they are entitled to whatever someone is willing to pay them.

    There is one big difference - Mick Jagger is still singing Satisfaction, while his baseball-playing fellow entertainers from that era have been forced give it up 30-40 years ago.




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