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    Can Either Miguel Sano or Kennys Vargas Get Back to the Bigs?


    Ted Schwerzler

    Arguably the most disappointing decision of Terry Ryan’s career as a general manager was non-tendering David Ortiz. When you release a player that becomes a Hall of Fame talent, it’s hard to overcome. Since then, two players were always discussed in the same breath as Ortiz. Because of their size and strength, Miguel Sano and Kennys Vargas were often compared to Ortiz. 

     

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    Obviously neither Kennys Vargas or Miguel Sano were ever going to become the next David Ortiz, but both were lazily compared at every juncture. As big-time sluggers that failed to realize much of their potential for Minnesota, it was low hanging fruit to bring up that suggestion. Their careers are not at all the same, and Sano’s tenure with the Twins only ended last season. Entering 2023 though, both find themselves at a crossroads.

    On Thursday, the Cincinnati Reds signed Vargas to a minor-league deal. He received an invitation to big-league Spring Training, and it’s the first step on his path toward a return to the big leagues. The former Minnesota prospect hasn’t played in the majors since 2017, and after a stop overseas, he has spent time in the Dominican, Venezuela, Puerto Rico, and Mexico.

    Playing 85 games last year in Mexico, Vargas put up gaudy numbers. His .324/.462/.566 slash line was punctuated with 17 home runs and 17 doubles. He played another 50 games during both the Venezuelan and Mexican winter leagues, in which he recorded 10 homers and a pair of triples.

    Vargas spent all of 2018 at Triple-A Rochester for Minnesota. He posted just a .752 OPS, and while the power numbers played he whiffed plenty. After being part of the 2014 Futures Game at Target Field alongside teammate Jose Berrios, Vargas never really produced more than an average big leaguer. His career 102 OPS+ was compiled across 236 games. That Futures Game also included Joey Gallo, Jorge Lopez, Michael A. Taylor, and Alex Meyer.

    It remains improbable that a 32-year-old Vargas is now the best version of himself, but the Reds should hardly have an impossible roster to crack.

    On the flip side, you have Sano, who was in the big leagues as recently as 2022. Unfortunately, he was so terrible that in just 29 games, Sano generated -0.9 fWAR. He tore his meniscus and tried to return later in the year, but the knee was not in playing shape and ultimately he was shut down.

    A source indicated that Sano may potentially need more time yet to recover from his injury and that a mid-season signing could be likely. He has been training down in Tampa, Florida this winter, and a workout is now on the horizon. Darren Wolfson reports that Sano will host scouts next week.

    It is somewhat shocking that Sano couldn’t find a deal for 2023 before the likes of Vargas, but that is solely a reflection of where his knee is physically. Sano may be looking for a guaranteed Major League deal as well, but even with a universal designated hitter, his health and production of late have not been good at all.

    Sano has shown an ability to hit at the Major League level, and he did own a 112 OPS+ in 2021. He was an All-Star back in 2017 and posted a 139 OPS+ along with 34 homers for the Bomba Squad in 2019. Despite racking up strikeouts in droves, his bugaboo has largely been facing velocity. Maybe a team believes in his plate discipline enough to give him a shot, but they’ll need to see a good showing next week.

    At the end of the day, neither slugger is or was ever going to come close to Ortiz. It is shocking to see Sano the one still out in the cold heading into 2023, but he also has a reputation that may precede him.

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    12 hours ago, SwainZag said:

    No Twin besides Pagan fell into Twins fan purgatory quicker or more often than Miguel Sano.  I'm not sure if it was the lofty expectations of him being compared to Miggy in his early years or down to the straight disgust of management putting him in the OF for 30 games 7 years ago, but fans love to rag on Sano.

    Just 2 years ago he hit 30 HR, which was more than anyone hit in 2022 and his .778 OPS would have only trailed Buck, Correa and Arraez.  He had a BAD 2022, it's true, but he was injured for most of the year and only got 70 PA.  

    He does K too much, but he deserves a shot somewhere and I hope he gets it.  It would obviously be great for Kennys as well, he was also a favorite.

     

    The whole episode of him (alledgedly) pinning the reliable female reporter against the hallway wall didn't help, especially with the other reporters/bloogers that knew her.

    Gallo is useful because we don't have many proven OF right now and he's pretty good with a glove and plays every day. And even in his worst year he produced a 79 OPS+, which is bad but better than the replacements we trotted out before he got here. 

    Sano is a DH and poor 1B, can't stay healthy, and mostly only hits in streaks so he's not very suited for a PH role. He needs to play a lot so there are enough ABs to hold a few hot streaks, but then you have Gallo without the D in the lineup every day. Blergh.

    If Sano were sent to the Saints, then he could get some good press and generate fan support that would follow him back to Target Field if he makes a comeback. If not sent up then the Saints fans would have a slugger to root for. Even if Sano made it back to Target Field,, that wouldn't mean that he couldn't play at the same time as Gallo. Sano would only need to prove that he can make quality at bats & get some hits. Maybe Sano could hit better than Palacios when he came up too. Sano's power depth is insurance as long as his price is right.

    Admittedly, I’m an optimist about baseball when it comes round to February - in contrast to what I often see as pessimism and angst and anticipation of disappointment in comments on this site. Plenty of time for those emotions when the season’s well underway!

    As this applies to the Gallo - Sano comparisons, where Sano is claimed to be as good or better a player - please call to mind Miguel’s boneheaded base running and iffy defense. Joey is by all accounts a savvy and opportunistic runner, an excellent defender, and in general not someone I’m prepared to bemoan and dismiss before he’s played a single game for the home team.

    1 hour ago, Melissa said:

    Admittedly, I’m an optimist about baseball when it comes round to February - in contrast to what I often see as pessimism and angst and anticipation of disappointment in comments on this site. Plenty of time for those emotions when the season’s well underway!

    As this applies to the Gallo - Sano comparisons, where Sano is claimed to be as good or better a player - please call to mind Miguel’s boneheaded base running and iffy defense. Joey is by all accounts a savvy and opportunistic runner, an excellent defender, and in general not someone I’m prepared to bemoan and dismiss before he’s played a single game for the home team.

    This makes perfect sense. I applaud this sentiment. 

    It makes no sense to ruin your off-season prematurely. 

    In the case of Gallo, I could use a big dose of what you are saying because you are absolutely right. 

    My premature concern remains this: Will Falvey, Lavine and Baldelli pivot off of Gallo or anyone who they believe will be a performer who is not performing. If Gallo is the same guy as last year, will he still walk past the lineup card without having to check it because he is is going to be in the lineup despite his performance?

    I don't mind them spending 11M on a player. I don't have to agree or disagree with that acquisition. If Gallo is the guy they want, that's good enough for me. I don't mind them making a mistake with that 11M if that is what happens. What I will mind is the doubling down on that mistake.... if that is what happens. 

    It's one thing to blow 11M on a player... it's survivable if you react to that poor performance by limiting opportunity to perform poorly.

    It's another thing to blow 11M on a player and allowing that player to take you down every day with seemingly unlimited opportunity to perform poorly. 

    I wish I could say that they wouldn't do that but... they have done it enough times that it has created a preemptive nervousness with me when all I want is get a chance. 

    Yes... I'm a complicated conflicted type guy. 

    Sano got chance after chance. Vargas did not get chance after chance. Let's see how Gallo is deployed in 2023. 

    19 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

    This makes perfect sense. I applaud this sentiment. 

    It makes no sense to ruin your off-season prematurely. 

    In the case of Gallo, I could use a big dose of what you are saying because you are absolutely right. 

    My premature concern remains this: Will Falvey, Lavine and Baldelli pivot off of Gallo or anyone who they believe will be a performer who is not performing. If Gallo is the same guy as last year, will he still walk past the lineup card without having to check it because he is is going to be in the lineup despite his performance?

    I don't mind them spending 11M on a player. I don't have to agree or disagree with that acquisition. If Gallo is the guy they want, that's good enough for me. I don't mind them making a mistake with that 11M if that is what happens. What I will mind is the doubling down on that mistake.... if that is what happens. 

    It's one thing to blow 11M on a player... it's survivable if you react to that poor performance by limiting opportunity to perform poorly.

    It's another thing to blow 11M on a player and allowing that player to take you down every day with seemingly unlimited opportunity to perform poorly. 

    I wish I could say that they wouldn't do that but... they have done it enough times that it has created a preemptive nervousness with me when all I want is get a chance. 

    Yes... I'm a complicated conflicted type guy. 

    Sano got chance after chance. Vargas did not get chance after chance. Let's see how Gallo is deployed in 2023. 

    This is a very fair point based on recent years, when I think we can all think of way too many instances of the team sticking with players who are flailing or clearly have run out their string. Why else does the name Pagán still make my blood pressure shoot up so high!

    I’ve seen the question posed here and elsewhere whether it’s Rocco or the front office that have this frustrating tendency to give people so long a hang rope …




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