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I'd like to see Pinto and Herrmann (more so Pinto) get more playing time in 2014. I'm not against the Twins signing another catcher, but I'm not convinced that Arencibia is the answer. Salty might be okay, but how many years would you have to sign him for and would he be a good fit?

 

I don't think catcher is an emergency position as they have Pinto/Herrmann/Fryer/Doumit/Mauer (would he catch in a pinch?). But I understand if the team wants to bring a catcher in. I just hope that if / when they do bring a catcher in, they bring one in that actually makes sense.

 

I'd like to know what the Twins are thinking here..

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With Hanigan now a Ray along with Molina, it sounds like Jose Lobotan mike be avalible

A switch hitting 29 year old from the same country as Pinto was positive O-WAR and D-WAR

for his career, could be cheap signing

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With Hanigan now a Ray along with Molina, it sounds like Jose Lobotan mike be avalible

A switch hitting 29 year old from the same country as Pinto was positive O-WAR and D-WAR

for his career, could be cheap signing

 

Well apperently the White Sox had the same idea as I did , he was just traded to them:angry:

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Buy low candidates are buy-low for a reason, but you have to look for the hints of a diamond in tht rough. He had a lot of pedigree and was hhighly thought of as recently as last ST. These kinds of moves can come at a low cost and reap high rewards.

 

this. He's not going to cost much. Perhaps I just remember him single handedly destroying us in our 2010 home opener, but I'd think he's worth the risk if he's cheap...

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Buy low candidates are buy-low for a reason, but you have to look for the hints of a diamond in tht rough. He had a lot of pedigree and was hhighly thought of as recently as last ST. These kinds of moves can come at a low cost and reap high rewards.

Concur.

 

looking backward at what a player has done is, of course, part of the process. But the far more important, and difficult part, is looking forward and trying to figure out what he's likely to do. Or, in cases like this, what he potentially might do.

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Concur.

 

looking backward at what a player has done is, of course, part of the process. But the far more important, and difficult part, is looking forward and trying to figure out what he's likely to do. Or, in cases like this, what he potentially might do.

 

Right, I'm sure some Oriole fans trashed Davis at the time of the trade too. Arencibia has some awful warts, but if you look past that at his recent hype, minor league numbers, etc. - there are plenty of reason to take a gamble.

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This would be easier if J.P. was a lefty or switch-hitter and could at least platoon some with Pinto. I wouldn't mind bringing him in, but if the Twins do that, it needs to be a conscious decision to bring in J.P. over someone else and drop either Herrmann or Fryer from the 40-man.

 

I could go either way with that decision, but keeping Herrmann would be the call. Fryer and Herrmann actually have very similar MiLB offensive numbers:

.267/.358/.404 (54 SB, 544 G) vs .258/.349/.372 (20 SB, 483 G)

Herrmann has more or less played each level a year younger. He also provides the added value of being a lefty and positional flexibility.

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but if the Twins do that, it needs to be a conscious decision to bring in J.P. over someone else and drop either Herrmann or Fryer from the 40-man.

 

Fine by me. We aren't contending next year anyway, might as well gamble and try and see if he can find all that offensive potential he showed as recently as the last two years. He was awful in 2013, but his two previous years were solid.

 

Worst case....you cut him and go back to Hermann or Fryer anyway.

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