Prince William Verified Member Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 4 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said: Buxton, Kepler, Rosario, Sano, Polanco, Arraez, Garver, Kirilloff, Mauer, Escobar, Gordon, Berrios, Gibson, Romero, Gonsalves, Stewart, Mejia, Jorge, Duffey, Pressly, Rogers, May, Wade, Baddoo, Jax just to name a few plus the first overall pick. Sure a few of those pitchers didn't pan out but at one time or another some were in the top 100 prospects overall. That is like 7 all stars, 4 of which are pitchers. A few? Romero, Gonsalves, Stewart, Mejia, Jorge Duffey and May turned out to be fine starting pitching if you were a tanking team Rogers, May and Duffey are failed starters that are fine relievers. A few. were in the top 100. Do you know what it means to be just in the top 100? It means that you are warmer than a warm body as a player. It means you were a top draft pick, or might be called up. Woo hoo. Pressly became a lights out when he finally listened to the current FO and used his slider more
TwinsDr2021 Verified Member Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 14 hours ago, cHawk said: About half of the players you named are still here. In addition, there is now Lewis, Larnach, Martin, SWR, Ryan, Duran, Winder, Petty, Alcala, Jeffers, Winder, Ober, Donaldson, Maeda to name a few that were added by the current regime. Maybe it was better or it is better, doesn't really matter, this FO was handed a ton of talent. You saying 6 years later half of the players are still here basically proves that point. Not sure if you were on this site back then but Romero (top 100 prospect) was a future top of the rotation pitcher, Gonzo (top 100 prospect) were no worse than a 4, Jay was a lock down relief pitcher. (lets not forget they were also given Gil and Ynoa) Lewis was added with the first overall pick they were handed, Martin and SWR are a result of Berrios who they were given. Alcala was traded for Escobar, Duran for Pressly, Maeda for Graterol, Odo for Palacios. It isn't a knock on this FO to say they inherited a darn pretty good situation, it is actually disingenuous to say they weren't. They took what they were given and supplemented and swapped out a few players and did well the first 5 years, now it is up to them to get their young guys to perform and they are going to have to hope their pitching prospects work out better than the pitching prospects they inherited. But is it really better today than before, well if the pitching prospects work out with Martin and Lewis, then yes it is, but if there isn't enough of them or Lewis and Martin aren't really good, then no it will be worse, much, much worse. Linus 1
TwinsDr2021 Verified Member Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 11 hours ago, Prince William said: A few? Romero, Gonsalves, Stewart, Mejia, Jorge Duffey and May turned out to be fine starting pitching if you were a tanking team Rogers, May and Duffey are failed starters that are fine relievers. A few. were in the top 100. Do you know what it means to be just in the top 100? It means that you are warmer than a warm body as a player. It means you were a top draft pick, or might be called up. Woo hoo. Pressly became a lights out when he finally listened to the current FO and used his slider more what is your point of this reply to downplay top 100 lists for the sake of this FO?
Prince William Verified Member Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 7:05 AM, TwinsDr2021 said: what is your point of this reply to downplay top 100 lists for the sake of this FO? For the sake of what you appear to not understand. The FO had some players when they got here. Most failed to develop. That really isn't on the FO. If a top 100 player failed to develop it would also be on the failed analysis of the ranking people who historically do not get much right
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