Here's An Idea - Twins acquire Santana and R.A. Dickey

[old nurse]

@SVD (better than an STD) What the Twins got for Viola

A pitcher that the Twins could have gotten for a low level prospect that they turned into a closer. A pitcher with an undistinguished Milb record that had a great three year run and three stiffs.

[Fire Dan Gladden]

@SVD (better than an STD) What the Twins got for Viola

A pitcher that the Twins could have gotten for a low level prospect that they turned into a closer. A pitcher with an undistinguished Milb record that had a great three year run and three stiffs.

 

Wow. How soon we forget. David West was a highly coveted (maybe the most coveted) prospect/young pitcher at the time. Aguilera was a solid #3/4 starter at the time. Tapani was an upper prospect. Drummond and Savage were throw ins.

 

A solid starter, 2 high end prospects, and 2 low end prospects is a pretty good haul for a B+ pitcher (Slightly below the Clemens/Maddux level at the time) at the trade deadline.

[Fire Dan Gladden]

I would be ok with a Santana and cash (to make salaries match) for Morneau swap. Santana is just too much of a risk to invest any time or money at this point. Trading for Morneau gives you a pitcher that could be great for a player you are not going to resign.

 

ok who then plays 1st and who plays right field?

 

Umm... 1B and RF would be manned by Parmalee, Doumit, Mauer, Mastroianni, and probably Hicks in some combination.

[old nurse]

@SVD (better than an STD) What the Twins got for Viola

A pitcher that the Twins could have gotten for a low level prospect that they turned into a closer. A pitcher with an undistinguished Milb record that had a great three year run and three stiffs.

 

Wow. How soon we forget. David West was a highly coveted (maybe the most coveted) prospect/young pitcher at the time. Aguilera was a solid #3/4 starter at the time. Tapani was an upper prospect. Drummond and Savage were throw ins.

 

A solid starter, 2 high end prospects, and 2 low end prospects is a pretty good haul for a B+ pitcher (Slightly below the Clemens/Maddux level at the time) at the trade deadline.

 

Aggie was not considered a solid starter. If he was, they would not have converted him to a reliever. He was going back and forth between the rotation and bullpen in New York after some early success .

In the Times archives, West was cosidered the prize. Tapani and Savage had been filler in earlier trades.

[Fire Dan Gladden]

@SVD (better than an STD) What the Twins got for Viola

A pitcher that the Twins could have gotten for a low level prospect that they turned into a closer. A pitcher with an undistinguished Milb record that had a great three year run and three stiffs.

 

Wow. How soon we forget. David West was a highly coveted (maybe the most coveted) prospect/young pitcher at the time. Aguilera was a solid #3/4 starter at the time. Tapani was an upper prospect. Drummond and Savage were throw ins.

 

A solid starter, 2 high end prospects, and 2 low end prospects is a pretty good haul for a B+ pitcher (Slightly below the Clemens/Maddux level at the time) at the trade deadline.

 

Aggie was not considered a solid starter. If he was, they would not have converted him to a reliever. He was going back and forth between the rotation and bullpen in New York after some early success .

In the Times archives, West was cosidered the prize. Tapani and Savage had been filler in earlier trades.

 

You are so wrong I don't even know where to start. Here is the transaction via BR:

 

July 31, 1989: Traded by the Minnesota Twins to the New York Mets for a player to be named later, Rick Aguilera, Tim Drummond, Kevin Tapani and David West. The New York Mets sent Jack Savage (October 16, 1989) to the Minnesota Twins to complete the trade.

 

Tapani and Savage were part of this trade. Tapani a big part. You are correct in that, at the time, West was considered the prize.

 

1985-87 Aguilera was a combined 31-17, with an ERA around 3.50. He was hurt in 1988, in 1989 he was partially in the pen out of necessity for the Mets, when he came to the Twins he was a FT starter. It wasn't until that offseason, when the Jeff Reardon left as a FA that Aguilera was asked to become the closer. At the time, he strongly resisted the move. He didn't want to do it. Lucky for us, he took to it pretty well.

 

Next time get your facts straight.

[jimbo92107]

So you want to see more of Luis Perdomo, Samuel Deduno, Cole Devries, etc.?

 

Not Perdomo, but I had fun watching some of the Twins pitchers last season, especially Deduno and DeVries. Both guys were able to apply pressure to opponents in their own ways. Now you've got Diamond, Worley, Gibson, Hendriks, and maybe Hernandez vying for rotation spots along with DeVries and Deduno. I don't mind what I see here. Pitching is always going to be a crap shoot at the bargain basement level.

[FrodaddyG]

Wow. Just wow.

[glunn]

Santana and Liriano back together on the Twins? If they could each get back to 90% of their prior greatness, then the Twins would have two aces. They are both long shots to pitch well, but there would be at least a chance of a magical season.