Article: Cleveland's Controllable Rotation Presents Blueprint for Twins

[yarnivek1972]

And even if they did have guys at AAA that could replace him for less (an opinion I strongly disagree with), they definitely don’t have four. One, MAYBE two that MIGHT SOMEDAY be better.

[BJames]

I think Gibson would sign a contract.  I would hope it would be somewhat low. Why?  I've watch Gibson for his 6 years with the Twins and this is what I see (excluding 2018)  Gibby avg number of innings about 160, Gibby gives up more hits then inning pitched, avg k's about 130,  But this year Gibsons numbers have all gotten better,  140 innings-just 118 hits, 135k's and a whip of 1.24.  I'm not buying that Gibson suddenly has learned to pitch.  Remember the last guy we signed that seemed to have turned the corner. Morrison went from avg at 15 Hr's a year to 38, how is that working for us.  I'm just not buying that one good year of Gibson is worth signing.  Seem this year the pitchers have the advantage.  I'm for finding or signing guy better then Gibson.  If you look at Odorizzi's numbers, they are better than Gibson or very similar.  Odorizzi had a year, last year, like Gibson is having this year (almost identical)  What happened to Odorizzi this year, he regressed to what he was before.  Middle of the road 4-5 pitcher on a good team. I just feel Gibby will regress next year and after as well.  We need to find # 2,#3, to go with Berrios and Romero for the coming years.  I'm ok if Gibby is #5 for a reasonable price, but he's not a number 1-3 pitcher on a good team, and I don't think a #4.  That's just the way I see it. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

I think Gibson would sign a contract.  I would hope it would be somewhat low. Why?  I've watch Gibson for his 6 years with the Twins and this is what I see (excluding 2018)  Gibby avg number of innings about 160, Gibby gives up more hits then inning pitched, avg k's about 130,  But this year Gibsons numbers have all gotten better,  140 innings-just 118 hits, 135k's and a whip of 1.24.  I'm not buying that Gibson suddenly has learned to pitch.  Remember the last guy we signed that seemed to have turned the corner. Morrison went from avg at 15 Hr's a year to 38, how is that working for us.  I'm just not buying that one good year of Gibson is worth signing.  Seem this year the pitchers have the advantage.  I'm for finding or signing guy better then Gibson.  If you look at Odorizzi's numbers, they are better than Gibson or very similar.  Odorizzi had a year, last year, like Gibson is having this year (almost identical)  What happened to Odorizzi this year, he regressed to what he was before.  Middle of the road 4-5 pitcher on a good team. I just feel Gibby will regress next year and after as well.  We need to find # 2,#3, to go with Berrios and Romero for the coming years.  I'm ok if Gibby is #5 for a reasonable price, but he's not a number 1-3 pitcher on a good team, and I don't think a #4.  That's just the way I see it. 

Gibson made an approach and delivery change last season and has been a significantly different pitcher since that time (roughly 12 months now). This isn't a fluke, Gibson is a different pitcher today than he was early last season. 

 

That doesn't mean he can't regress or get injured - just like anybody - but he's a pretty safe bet to be a better, more consistent pitcher than he was earlier in his career.

[Mike Sixel]

I have no idea why everyone is so sure Romero is going to be really good, he's not even in the majors right now........

 

I see no shot Gibson signs for a low deal, this is his last shot to make big money. You either have to give him years, or big money, or both, imo, to get him to sign.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

I see no shot Gibson signs for a low deal, this is his last shot to make big money. You either have to give him years, or big money, or both, imo, to get him to sign.

Well, Gibson might be a realist. He's not entering FA until his age 32 season, and he might come with a draft pick penalty if we make him a qualifying offer. Given how the market played out last offseason, he might not have any real shot at "big money", and a more modest guarantee could be seen as acceptable (it's at least insurance for him in case of injury, which is always a concern for pitchers).

[Mike Sixel]

 

Well, Gibson might be a realist. He's not entering FA until his age 32 season, and he might come with a draft pick penalty if we make him a qualifying offer. Given how the market played out last offseason, he might not have any real shot at "big money", and a more modest guarantee could be seen as acceptable (it's at least insurance for him in case of injury, which is always a concern for pitchers).

 

A QO will be worth 19MM by then.....at that point, depending on how things look, you maybe just take that 1 year deal. If he's this good next year, he'll get a deal, even as a 32 yo. Most athletes bet on themselves at this point, not all, but most.

 

I think 4/80 gets it done. I don't think 3 years (as that's only a 2 year extension) gets is done, but it might. Kind of depends how long he wants to play.