The rotation that Ryan built.

[DaveW]

I think that is a pretty large exaggeration there. I mean the Yankees are in terrible shape because of large free agent acquisitions and long term contracts. The Angels have made terrible mistakes in FA and Boston had to have LA save them from themselves. So I think Worst is a bit over the top. Maybe lets go with one of the worst.

The point is the Twins are currently the worst team in baseball and have been terrible 5 of the last 6 years, also the Angels, Yankees and Red Sox have like a combined 10+ World Series titles during the TR/Bill Smith era

[Rosterman]

You have to remember that the blogosphere was foaming at the mounth that the Twins wouldn't spend money, so Terry went out and spent.

 

The Twins were a losing club. Players were NOT lining up outside the door, or let's say HIGH QUALITY players, to be a part of an organization that clearly had some rebuilding to do.

 

But some pitchers answered the phone and listened and their agents managed to throw out an inflated figure that they MIGHT NOT get elsewhere, and the Twins bit. Partly because of fan sentiment that they spend, and partly because THE TWINS DID HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND.

 

But then we all complain that the wrong pitchers were signed, with one getting an extension after a very decent season in the rotation. 

 

We can argue quality. The pitchers in question would make starts, COULD pitch deeper into games, keep us in games if the offense would score at least four runs. It was an expensive investment, and Ryan and Co. knew something about the organization, as they really didn't see any dynamite arms coming thru until at least 2017 or beyond. Even if Meyer and May had planned out, Terry & Co. weren't taking any chances and did what he did, invested heavily in pitching in the free agent market, as well as four years of draft choices.

 

Shows the big gamble this business is.

 

No one would've predicted this overall failure come 2016, with a rotation of vets in shambles, one in the minors, the prospects needing to get their act together in the minors, and another pitching for minimal outs in the bullpen. And we have 40% of the payroll tied up in this important position.

 

Plus, the expensive commodities are basically worthless on the trading market.

 

It ain't easy being general manager!

 

 

[DaveW]

It should be noted that The twins had a perfectly good SP named Francisco Liriano who could have been resigned much cheaper than Santana, Nolasco etc but they refused to let him throw his slider more or less. Of course he went to Pittsburgh and dominated.

 

When it comes to pitcher evaluation either in the draft, minors, trades, or FA the twins have been pretty damn poor ever since the AJ trade and the Santana rule 5 pick.

[Dman]

The point is the Twins are currently the worst team in baseball and have been terrible 5 of the last 6 years, also the Angels, Yankees and Red Sox have like a combined 10+ World Series titles during the TR/Bill Smith era

My larger point is every team makes FA mistakes. You made a blanket statement of worst I doubt that assumption. If playoffs and World Series are your measure then maybe the Brewers would be the worst.

[DJSim22]

 

Because the vikings have been so successful? Hopefully this organization finds MLB version of Theo. Or, if he wins the WS with the Cubs this year. He will have gotten rid of the Red Sox and Cubs curse. He can just make it 3 for 3 and fix the Twins. 

 

Young talent producing with an AL Central title sure would be nice right about now.