DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 I concur, he gave up the 3 big shots and wasn't locating well to say the least but it wasn't like he had no clue where the strike zone was, unlike earlier in the year. I think he remains interesting considering the needs of some teams and who is still out there.Don't try to sugarcoat that start, it was awful. Still like Nick said, this isnt going to hurt his value THAT much, though it certainly doesn't help.
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Don't try to sugarcoat that start, it was awful. Still like Nick said, this isnt going to hurt his value THAT much, though it certainly doesn't help.I'm not sugarcoating it, you're right it was awful,I just felt it wasn't reason to think he's going to revert back to pre bullpen Frankie.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted July 25, 2012 Author Posted July 25, 2012 And in fairness, the three guys he gave up homers to (Konerko, Dunn, Rios) have all been pretty good power hitters this year. It's not like he was giving up bombs to Alexei Ramirez. Sometimes good hitting beats good pitching.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 And in fairness, the three guys he gave up homers to (Konerko, Dunn, Rios) have all been pretty good power hitters this year. It's not like he was giving up bombs to Alexei Ramirez. Sometimes good hitting beats good pitching.Especially when those hitters are taking their swings in US Cellular.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Are we sure it wasn't what he ate, the weather, or the alignment of the moon as well? And to think, I was going to quip the other day about how long until the soft excuses start rolling up..... He didn't pitch well. It's ok, it isn't the end-all, be-all of what Frankie is, bad starts happen to everyone. Soft excuses for a bad start just sound so damn desperate and silly.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted July 25, 2012 Author Posted July 25, 2012 I would say what's silly is acting like one bad start outweighs the 10 good ones before it. Every pitcher has days where they get hit.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 I would say what's silly is acting like one bad start outweighs the 10 good ones before it. Every pitcher has days where they get hit.No disagreement - there is some hyperventilating happening in this thread that isn't necessary. I still think Frankie's a headcase I want gone, but this one start neither proves nor disproves anything. It's one start. But let's not make excuses. Having a bad start against a good team and good hitters isn't something to tip your hat too - if anything that would make other teams contending even more wary of him. It's a silly excuse for what was just a bad start, plain and simple.
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