I would say what I blame Gibson for in terms of where he slots as a starter is that, at this point in his career, he isn't more than a number 4. To a large degree, that IS on him. He simply can't be counted on to show any consistency and lacks command of his pitches. Problems that, as I mentioned before, shouldn't be the case of a near 30 year old with 4 full seasons and part of another at the MLB level. I strongly disagree with the notion that Gibson has pitched "well" since the end of May. In June, Gibson made 6 starts. He did not get past the 6th inning in any of them. Two were technically "quality starts" (which means 4 weren't). In one of his "quality starts", he allowed 11 baserunners and 2 HR in 6 IP. That he allowed only 3 runs was less skill and more luck IMO. In the other, he allowed 8 baserunners in his 6 IP. That's not too bad for him, but I still have a difficult time calling that "pitching well". A couple other outings from June included a game in which he allowed 12 hits and another in which he walked 4. This is part of what you describe as "pitching well". Let's move to July. He made four starts, two were "quality". In the other two, there was a another 4 walk game and a game in which he allowed 7 runs, on 9 H, 2 BB and 2 HR. Ironically, he was shipped back to AAA after what was perhaps his best start in July. The FO felt he was pitching so "well" that they sent him down. Moving on to August. In his first three starts after his recall he failed to complete 6 innings. In two, failed to complete 5. I'm sorry, I have a REAL hard time calling this pitching "well". So, yeah, since (and including) his start on 8/22, the results are good. But again, he was facing the 12th, 13th and 14th ranked teams in the AL in terms of OPS. I keep bringing it up because IMO it matters. I'm well aware that some of the other Twins' starters struggled against those same teams. It's a fair enough point. But this isn't about them. This is about Gibson and whether he has turned some magical corner in his career. IMO, I see no change in Gibson from last year. He is still a guy who shows flashes of borderline brilliance. But he still has WAY too many outings where he is simply terrible. btw, after his starts against Toronto and Chicago, the first post of this thread pointed out that he had gotten more swings and misses in those starts. That those two teams are playing out the string was a factor IMO. In his two starts against Kansas City he threw 176 pitches and had 14 swings and misses, an 8% swing and miss rate. As it stands right now, I would rather spend the $ 5 mil or so that Gibson will likely get in arbitration on someone else. I'm pretty confident there will be guys out there that can put up a 5 ERA for less than that. Perhaps, if he does well down the stretch (including potential upcoming games against the Yankees and Indians), I may change my opinion.