I think the answer is yes, Rogers, Hildenberger and Busenitz proved that and possibly a few more. Also I was thinking this list was about trade value, IMO we could get more in return for a half dozen of our prospects not listed than May and Duffey.
I don't want three years of Santana and RP in exchange for 1 year of Mauer, but your second option I really like. Honest question what has May and Duffey done that makes them difficult to replace? They both seem exactly like players that are fairly easy to replace? To me a few of our prospects would bring a bigger return than them.
IMO Lewis value is based on the unknown and for teams looking a few years out. Would the Dodgers or Yanks give us want, probably not, would Florida and Tampa? We could probably get anybody on their major league roster for him (with exceptions)
My thoughts on Joe's value is that right now it is very limited, to trade him and get anything the twins would have to eat most of his salary, otherwise it would be a salary dump for low level prospect or maybe somebody coming off injury. But if the Twins are out of it around the deadline and Joe is playing like last year he would have a ton a value for a contending team. IMO
Isn't this the problem with hording prospects? eventually you will lose them for nothing because there isn't enough room on the 40 man roster with prospects that are not elite. This is one of many reasons team take a chance and trade young ones before they get exposed and don't make it anyway. Maybe the Yanks traded us Enns and Littlell because they would need to be added to the their 40 man roster and they didn't value them in that way, and while the trades looks good for the Twins now if they don't end up contributing to the Twins or being added in a trade for somebody else, I don't see how this ends up being a good trade because they took up 40 man roster space?
I love it, was just looking at him the other day. But people on here will probably hate it because we might have to give up a catcher who is older than him and has 1450 less major league at bats. You know because the idea of a prospect is worth more than somebody who has already done more than we can expect out of our prospect.
They way I see it, the only way to overturn that call is that they are saying when his body comes down on the ball (at the very end of the play) he loses control a 2nd time. The first time there is not indisputable evidence that that the ball is on the ground. IMO, when the overturn a call like that they should take the exact frame they used for indisputable evidence and display it, That is CYA for the NFL and officials.
Doesn't reduce their tax bracket, it reduces their tax burden, but it is still money coming out of their accounts, and many believe they can do better to help people then giving it to the state or Feds, and who are we to argue to that point?
Yes Florida, Tenn, Texas would be horrible places to live. The reason athletes don't mention taxes as a reason is because those that do get destroyed in the Media and by people about not paying their fair share. (look what they said about Phil Mickelson when he talked about moving out of Cali for tax reasons) But if taxes didn't matter you wouldn't have athletes owning places in FLA or Texas when signing their contract so any bonuses won't be taxes at 10%.
Remember 20 million a year after taxes (fed - 39.6 and state 9.85) and 10% going to the agent is really closer to 8. So a couple of million and/or a state with lower taxes is something. Sure that is winning the lottery for us, but for people that make and spend large amounts it is a big deal.
The only reason I don't trade Gordon, Jay and Zach for Cole, is that I have something in works for Archer or possibly one of the Mets starters. I do hate that is he is Boras guy and it will be next to impossible to have him longer than 2 years but I still make the move.
I like the move, don't see much downsize. I like the idea that he will "hopefully" be competing for a spot in the 19 rotation and at that price if isn't ready 8 million isn't a huge hit to take and if he does well 8 million will be a steal.
So you think the Twins will sign Lynn or Cobb at somewhere around 4 years beween 60 - 70 million. I would much rather try and trade for a controllable pitcher, even if we have to over pay with prospects.
I think the point is if our pitchers are real prospects they should be established major leaguers by the time they are 24-25. (Berrios, Gray, Sale, Archer, etc..)
He did pitch 77 innings there last year in 15 starts, I would be fine with giving him 8-10 to start there, but anything more tells me he went from a top prospect back to just a regular prospect.
Me? not at all, I was trying to say Thorpe (#13) should/can be held back "if ready" because he is young enough to go to a lower team than say Slegers (#34)
The pitchers with the best chance of having an impact on the major league team should be the priority. To say somebody can be held down because of age, tells me they aren't the prospect we are hoping he is.
Here is a partial list of pitchers (with age starting next year) competing for the rotation of the Twins top 3 minor leagues teams. This shows me we should be trading some for more top end talent or at this point there really is no reason not to switch some to relief pitchers. May - 28 Enns - 27 Eades - 25 Slegers - 25 Stewart - 23 Mejia - 24 Jorge - 24 Poppen - 24 Romero - 23 Gonsalves - 23 Littell - 22 Thorpe - 22 Beeker - 22 Wells - 20 Jax - 23 Barnes - 22 Vasquez - 24